Really? Never knocked down?

It was the Zab Judah fight. And it wouldn't change anything. Floyd took Zab to school.

 

He stayed up against Mosley, but the glove touched against Judah. He was also officially down against Hernandez.

 

I’ve mentioned this before in some thread or another, but apart from the inaccuracies in the story OP posted, I reject the premise.

I fighter can be tough and have an average or below-average chin. A fighter with a great chin can never go down (or rarely) and not be tougher than other boxers.

In short, we think of tough guys as one who get hit and stay upright but there’s no connection between physical punch resistance (what we think of as a granite chin) and actual toughness.

George Foreman bounced Joe Frazier off the canvas like a basketball, but Joe kept getting up and trying. That’s toughness. Had he stayed upright through the same assault, he’d be no tougher for it. GGG, to make a comparison, may or may not have been as tough as Joe, but he never kept going through such a thrashing so how do we know?

I’ll give another example of one of the most courageous performances I’ve ever seen that’s lost to time, and it came in a fight where a guy went down at least once without getting hit and a few other times without getting hit hard: Derrik Holmes went down eight times in five rounds vs. Wilfredo Gomez, including five times in the fourth.

It looked on the surface like a lack of courage on Derrik’s part. Little did we know. Gomez actually fractured Derrik’s jaw — and by that I mean the X-rays (published by The Ring) showed that it split the lower jaw in half. Clean break. Along with it, a tooth was broken clean in half down the middle (not the top part knocked off, but but straight up and down along the line of the jaw fracture, as if one set a tree trunk on something and chopped it in two with an axe.

Imagine having a tough broken clean in half, along with your jaw, and somehow you keep getting up to try to fight a guy with enough power to have pulled that off. Unfathomable. Furthermore, after that, he took off 15 months to heal and resumed his career to fight five more times.

(Forget the tooth, most jaw fractures are hairline. It’s a fissure in the bone, not a complete break into two separate pieces, which is what occurred here.)

Imagine someone weighing 122 pounds hitting hard enough split bone like that. Scary. But imagine taking that and not looking for a way out, getting up time and again to keep trying. That’s toughness. I don’t care what kind of chin he had, his courage and toughness cannot be questioned.

 

McCall was never on the floor in any fight I don't believe.

 

I didn’t think so, thanks Olivares!

 

Very good fighter,I liked his jab and infighting tactics,classic Freddie Brown mold.

 

Correct, and never knocked down?

 

Vitali Klitschko is another

 

Not in a boxing ring but in kick boxing:

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I think so,but we don't know much of Graham unfortunately tho.

 

I was there the night Billy Fox OBLITERATED Jake LaMONZONa, as I call him. Pathetic glass chin on that guy. X=POZED!

 

I think Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym was never knocked down of his career.

 

Were we talking about boxing or all combat sports in general??? I mean it was a spinning heal kick when he was 17 years old. Lol And Reid I believe reid went on to try and box professionally. I forgot how he did…

 

Billy Fox or Eddie Mustafa Muhammad?

 

We know enough. Apparently never knocked down in more than 100 fights with numerous ATG's.