Really? Never knocked down?

Forgive me, I am not as hardcore a fan as you are and I don't know all the names that people take when converting. Is that the name Muhammad Ali was meant to have taken that nobody would call him by? Out of respect, I'd call him whatever he wants, if I knew what it was.

 

Thanks for that! I'd have never suspected that Price could've dropped him.

 

No JT, he was actually dropped to a knee in his final challenge of Gavilan in Havana, but that's an error I also committed for over a decade here. (As for the Keed, he was decked by the monstrous punching Ike Williams, and with a double hook from challenger Basilo, the latter on preserved footage.)

 

Pretty sure the old Bull was never put down.
He took some shots from Lewis, putting his gloves down and walking around, that would have really Hurt other guys.

 

Thanks for that mate. I may have seen this mentioned a while back, maybe by yourself.

 

Don’t think McCall was ever knocked down. Yeah the second fight against Lewis was ruled a TKO, but that was a mental breakdown. At no point was McCall remotely hurt.

Hell, was he ever even visibly HURT in a fight? He might have the #1 ATG heavyweight chin.

 

Wasn't McCall the guy who started crying during a fight? There's no crying in boxing doe. He must have had some crazy sheet going on in the background.

 

McCall cried before most fights, or at least came close to it. I remember him doing the same before starching Lewis and Maskaev.

 

That's crazy man. At the point I am summoning up demons in my mind, this guy is crying.

Well, if it works for you, I guess. :

 

Thanks, fellas. I'm here to learn much more than pretend to be some sort of "authority" on any of this. Opinions are enjoyable and interesting to hash out and more fully develop, but it's the fact finding and new discoveries which provide the true rewards here. (My father's childhood fantasy was to become an archeologist, and a couple members of my mother's extended family have become extremely successful in that field. I grew up reading National Geographic.)

Interesting additional input about Palomino, @scartissue. The Duran and Muniz footage, combined with the description of Price-Palomino raises very serious questions about who would've won a WW unification against Cuevas. At that time, many were speculating that Carlos couldn't have withstood Pipino's bombs. I was far more familiar with Cuevas at the time, but the advent of the internet and YouTube triggered a paradigm shift in my thinking.

I don't know how many others here watched the nationally televised amateur meeting between Derrik and Wilfredo in 1975, but the much faster Holmes won via TKO in the opening round via three opening round knockdowns. (I haven't seen it since the live ABC telecast.)

For their 1980 professional rematch on NBC's Friday Night Fights, it almost happened again. Derrik had Gomez out of his feet with a deadly right late in round two, but Wilfredo got through it in a bout readily seen on YouTube. Now Gomez was truly infuriated, and out for redemption.

This was by far the most charged up I saw Gomez in any or the few bouts of his I saw, and for perfectly understandable reasons.

No question in my mind Derrik was going to continue getting up, but continue to drop from anything by then. Two and a half years hence came the Pocket Manila in NOLA between Gomez and Pintor.

 

Lot of gold in this post. And yes, I’m a bit of a fossil at his point so happy to contribute to your archeology journey.

 

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