Rendall Munroe v Kiko Martinez - thoughts !

From about ten yards behind where Johnny Allen was sitting.......

I scored it 117-112 for Munroe.

His superior strength and stamina told, but as TFFP said, if he had a more correct punching technique he would have stopped Martinez, who has awful footwork and simply slugs wildly.

If Rendall develops a better technique, he could go further - he is very good at covering up and creating space for himself to work, backed up by physical strength and a good chin.

Olusegun was fairly impressive as well I must say, against an awkward Haywood, though the fight was effectively over in the first round once the initial heavy shot landed. That would be the major criticism of Ajose..... his failure to close the show earlier.

His footwork looked good and he has a variety of punches from awkward angles. Needs to be tested further before I make my mind up on what he can do.

 

Munroe has the strength, chin and boxing brain to compete with the best at 122. If only he'd pack the bins in and train full-time, can't think of a suitable replacement now, maybe Dominic Ingle????

Could do well, but needs to improve his technique. I bet he could be a murderous puncher with some help, he's already a hurtful puncher, and his work to the body always impresses me. He's just missing that extra oomph to make him World class.

Still think he'd beat Dunne though.

 

One thing I did miss was his brain..... then again having beaten Martinez once before it was obvious he would have the ability to employ fairly similar tactics.

Frank Maloney was almost climbing on the ring apron imploring at him to attack more. When he did commit to his punches he looked like he was hurting Martinez, but he was mainly throwing arm punches.

I guess with the 'feared puncher' tag there is no point in taking risks when you are clearly outboxing your opponent.

In terms of his power...... 8 stoppages in 18 wins isn't that bad, but when you are capable of wearing opponents down very quickly with your strength, perhaps a little less time on the strength and more on the technical side. His trainer seems ok, but if there was to be a change, Ingle would be the man I would look to, given his ability with southpaws.

I would back him to beat Dunne, because although he lacks the one punch power that Martinez has (in theory), he has the ability to expose Dunne's defensive weaknesses, and probably coast to a points win or perhaps late stoppage.

 

I would have to say that, as of this moment, he would get butchered by Vasquez, Marquez, Caballero, Gonzalez, Cordoba and Lopez.

I would heavily favour Molitor against him as well.

Lets not get carried away here. In my eyes the guy Munroe was fighting, Kiko Martinez, is a poor man's Ponce de Leon.

 

Lads, I know you like backing your own and I have no problem with that, but I just watched the fight (was out at a match last night so I missed it first up) and Munroe wasn't particulalrly good. He did what he needed to do and came on strong late on but lets be honest Martinez was gassed after 6 rounds. He showed a half decent beard but I didn't see him eat any big, clean right hands from what I saw (although the first round wasn't on the recording for some reason)

He is huge for the weight though. I see he is listed as 5"7 but to be honest he looks a bit bigger. He uses that well but coming on late to beat Martinez isn't that impressive for my money. I actually thought his performance the first time around was streets ahead of last night. I thought 116-113 was the correct score. Now while thats a decent win you're only fooling yourself if you think losing a lot of rounds to Martinez is something a good boxer would do. Martinez either knocks his opponents out early or fails to do so, gasses and is **** for the remainder of the fight. He can't box worth a ****. So losing as many rounds to him as Munroe did (especially given his size advantage) just doesn't impress me at all. I'm not saying he's terrible or having a go at him. I just don't see what people are so impressed with about last nights performance

 

He has boxing talent for sure, he doesnt even full time train. But like D-Mac said, Martinez is in no other certain terms, pretty ****. I cant believe he beat Dunne, i guess it was a case of thinking it was an easy fight and just getting caught cold. Id say 2 more competitive European Title fights then have a shot at an Eliminator for a belt. If Dunne wins his world title fight it wouldnt suprise me if Munroe gets a shot sooner or later.

 

It winds me up people talk so highly of Dunne when he got KO'd by this guy. They can talk all the **** they want but Munroe beat him comfortably twice, Dunne has done absolutely nothing to replicate that.

Jeffries was top notch stopping a guy in the first that went 9 rounds with highly touted Russian middleweight prospect, Dimitry Pirog.

 

You're all far too hard on Rendall. If he trained since he was a youngster full time he could have been a world operator.

Its not entirely from the realms of possibility he could win a world strap like you all make out.

I like him.

 

He needs to get a grip and box full time. Why he still works on the bins is beyond me. Sorry if it sounds harsh but its a total lack of ambition if he doesn't jack it in and give boxing a real go. If he has faith in his talent, ability, potential etc... then he has no reason not to give it his all. Surely there will be a job working on the bins waiting for him at the end of his career. Plus, if he's any use, then surely he can generate a couple of decades worth of binman income at least between now and the end of his career. I don't dislike Munroe but he's a strange kid. Turning down big paydays and world title shots and still working on the bins while at the same time still getting more and more arrogant with each passing fight. He's a hard one to work out

 

What would title shots (plural) has he turned down?

And the European belt is not a bad payday by any means. Especially for this level of fighter, the level which he is at. Which is not world class, quite clearly, so why rush him into an abrupt KO defeat? There are no weak beltholders to cherrypick. He's at the right level at the moment and he has plenty to learn.

 

It was just the one to be fair. He was offered the fight with Cordoba and turned it down.

I agree with you being at the right level and having plenty to learn. I just think he does that best by packing it in and boxing full time. I think that makes him a better boxer which in the lmedium term increases his earning potential. I'm not advocating him packing in the bins then taking on Juanma the next week. I never mentioned anything about rushing him or enducing an abrupt KO defeat. But lets be honest, if you want to make the most of your potential you should be full time

 

He hardly made a meal of it. Martinez came out throwing bombs in the first few rounds and Rendall had to weather the storm. Many fighters have to grind out wins, and Kiko would have been stopped if it went another round.

Dunne got obliterated by Martinez, so he needs to prove he is worthy of a fight with Munroe.

 

Location: Ireland

Nuff said about that one!

 

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And what's your location? Dreamworld, where Munroe is world class or even near it!

Ok a few things, Munroe made a **** boxer in Martinez look acomplished at times! Dunne got sparked by Martinez which can happen and says NOTHING about Dunne's ability. If Dunne fought either Munroe or Martinez again he would show what the term outbox actually means. Whoever said that Dunne has never shown any class is talking pure BS.
Don't judge Dunne on his one defeat, look at all his other wins!
Munroe is getting cockier with not much to back it up.
I have a theory that he won't pack in the bins cos he knows that he can not cut it, at least Dunne has the conviction to give his career 100% win or lose.
This opinion is based on facts, not where I come from!
Ask anyone who actually knows boxing (not someone biased because they support a particular boxer) and they will tell you that Dunne has more in every department than Munroe.
I will say it again for the slow Munroe fans who don't seem to get it, Dunne loses to Martinez, Munroe beat Martinez, this does NOT equal Munroe beats Dunne!!!
Dunne wanted a chance to prove this but Munroe declined the offer, I wonder why...

 

[quote="TKO";3526199]Location: Ireland

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Yep. Seems a *****.


Did the Sky viewers get to see Paddy Hyland fight? I was really looking forward to seeing him in action after the Heagny fight but he was awful and needed to duck his way through the last round to avoid a draw. He is no where near a Euro title shot and definetly needs some better coaching.