Ricky Burns would punish Rios

He has a belt by beating shams? Is that how easy it is to win a world belt? And against the lads he defended it against? This fella is gonna be remembered as a two weight "world champion" by beating up absolute shams.. is that something to be proud of? Prove me wrong.

Burns fans need to calm down untill he beats someone with a pulse.

 

Obviously not anyone but he has beaten better fighters. Martinez is a decent fight but not a quality fighter.

Of course it was. "The battle of Britain", "The fight everyone wanted to see", "The biggets domestic dust up" with the belt on the line, of course it was his biggest win.

 

When thats your reply, It's obvious you haven't a clue, pal.

 

Kevin Mitchell from London right after his Katsidis defeat beats down the then undefeated John Murray in 8 rds and right after that it takes Brandan Rios 11RDS to dispose of Murray in New York.I`ve not rated most British fighters but i`m rating Ricky Burns as potential.If Burns improves and gets better fights he`ll be ready for ther overrated Rios easily.

 

Deflated. I've watched and even been impressed with Burns, as I didn't see him handling Mitchell the way he did. I'm not saying he isn't a good fighter, only that I don't see him holding up under the pressure of Alvarado let alone Rios who just defeated him. I responded to the TS by saying Burns wouldn't beat Alvarado. In return he posted a lone emoticon, so I spiced it up some in rebuttal, not my usual style, but given the fighter he suggests is not even in the same weight class and has not fought the same class of opponents I can only assume I was dealing with blind nutthuggery here, and responded in kind. I have nothing against Burns, and as I've said enjoy watching him fight, I just don't believe he has the tools to beat either fighter.

 

Brilliant!:rofl So the main criteria should be opponent's reach?:huh
Mitchell was top 3 with the organisation,Katsidis was the body's chosen opponent for the interim belt,and Moses is a an ex-champion who was still top 10.
I did tell you my dad was Irish after you called me a biased Scottish ****.
As for your drivel about same size opponents,you clearly have no idea how boxing promotion works,and you talk as if every opponent should be a potential HOF'r.
A bit like Broner does?
I don't need to prove he deserves it,he got a shot,won,then moved up and got a shot at the interim belt,which he again won.
The WBO then appointed him full champion when they awarded JMM the 140 full status.
You prove that he doesn't deserve it.
You've got a reputation as being the Irish version of PrinceN,which begs the question....


How's that workin for ya?

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Too show a comparison, it would be like me saying Teon Kennedy is gonna rule the 122 pound class. Now I admit I am bias as we are friends, and I am a fan of his also, but in all honesty he's not a world caliber fighter, as proved by the embarassing defeat at the hands of Rigo. Teon is good but nothing special (imo same as Burns) so coming on here saying he will beat Mares, Nishioka or even Vazquez Jr., Ramos, Frampton or Darchinyan is ridiculous. He's defeated no one of world caliber note same as Burns, no matter how cool I think he is, or how good a fighter I believe him to be. It's still a silly claim until proven.

Maybe he (Burns) should fight Abril, they're in the same weight class and right around each other in rank, plus it would be a common opponent between himself and Rios. But I would like to apologize to you for disrespect, I do enjoy your posts also, and respect you as a fellow non-biased poster.

 

That's a fair response Rorschach,and fair play to you for it.No need to apologise mate.
Incidentally,I'm not sure if you're aware of the promotional issue with Burns but most of us feel it will be a big hindrance to Ricky in terms of building a legacy,but I've said for a while that of the top 5,Abril is the most gettable for Ricky to bring to the UK.
It's the best doable fight for him right now.

 

What are his promotional problems you referred to? I wasn't aware of Burns having problems, is he having trouble trying to find a promoter?

 

Your just takin what you want from my comments, aren't you? When you have fighters who are smaller and with a smaller reach against a fighter like Burns, whos strenght is to keep them at bay, whos gonna win? Did you never wonder why he's fighting guys who are smaller than him? Fella's he's expected to beat.. even Katsidis. I hinestly dont remember you sayin your parents are Irish but as I said before, that means **** all. I actually have (second) cousins in Coatbridge but again that means **** all. Burns is a fighter with a world belt by beating up shams. Does that deserve a world belt? Not future hall of famers but actuall contenders. Katsidis was a shadow of his old self that saw him win an interm belt. Moses was a former world champ, key word former. And dont tell me Mitchell is a class opponent. Theres a difference between the "bums" Broner fights and the bums Burns fights. The difference is Burns fights commonwealth level opponents in Scotland, Broner and Rios are fighting a different kind of bum in America. Bums with unbeaten records that would wipe the floor with Burns' bums. Theres a difference in opponents in Europe and America.

As for promotion, your proving my point. Promoters pad their fighters records with opponents they're supposed to beat. Much like Burns' career.

"You've got a reputation as being the Irish version of PrinceN"? I really dont understand that. And a reputation with who? You? Burns fans? What makes me different from any other person that believes Burns is a bum?

 

No mate.He's promoted by the guy whose name we're not allowed to type here,and that guy is notorious for keeping his fighters in the UK and out of danger if he can help it.That's why Hatton and Khan flourished after they left him.
Ricky isn't the type to kick up a stink but the main problem is Ricky's loyalty to his manager,and to be fair Alex Morrison stuck by Ricky when everyone thought he was going nowhere after two defeats.
The manager is in turn very loyal to the promoter.Can you see where this is going?

 

Burns is underrated, im very confident he can prove to be a top world class operator, not saying he beats them all but he will be a tough match for the best of them no probs.
He beat martinez in a great performance imo even tho he was put on his arse and pressured alot he showed alot of heart and skill making everybody sit up and take notice. martinez is world champ again so it wasnt like burns found him out, martinez is defo world class! the rest of burns superfeather defence's were pretty shocking in terms of the oposition so he obviously won those easily.
Burns first fight at lightweight against kats was a great win, yes kats was past his best but every man and his dog thaught burns was going to get demolished. burns schooled kats giving him his new found tag of 'shot to ****' by burns doubters!
moses was a good win. an ex world champ, strong, good ko record and only stopped once. as usual some were picking moses to win but burns schooled him also!
mitchell vs burns was meant to be 50/50 alot of respected people in boxing not just fans picked mitchell to ko burns saying mitchell would be too strong and tough for burns. burns destroyed mitchell!
say what you want about the oponents the point is burns has near always got underrated in his title defences by people who should know better but he still gets the jobs done no problem! that we cant say for broner or rios who both have controversial decisions on their records against fighters they were expected to destroy!
i dont get how some people think burns will get destroyed when he steps up a level when he's clearly been far too good for everybody he's faught so far since he beat martinez. Rios is certainly not a huge step up for burns! the likes of JMM is, you know, the elite dogs but there aint none of them in the lightweight devision! [please nobody say broner].

 

You said Mitchell was his best win.I'm saying it's not
You said anyone Rios has beat is better than Martinez.I'm saying bull****.
You said Moses isn't the type who should be fighting for a title.I'm saying he is.
You said he was a coward for moving up only to then say he never fights anyone his own size.I'm saying that doesn't add up(and still doesn't,despite your explanation)
You rabbit on about Katsidis when the truth was,95% of people expected him to beat Ricky.
You go on about bums.I'll leave that one hanging....

What is it that you think I'm being selective about?
You're just out on a hate campaign against Burns.Outside of Froch and the elite like Mayweather and Cotto,Ricky's record and title resume stands up against most current world champions.
You are incapable of reason on this matter,and show your immaturity on a regular basis.
Even people who are against Burns would look at this thread and see that I'm delivering the equivalent of a boxing masterclass to you.:bbb

Don't thank me.It's just what I do.

 

I see, that's unfortunate. there's no way for him to step out from underneath him, like others have? Or is that about his loyalty being a issue as well.

 

He wants the big fights,but I had a chat midweek with a guy who works for his manager(I train at Alex Morrison's gym) and the way it sounded,the team(outwith Ricky and his trainer) won't risk going to America unless it's huge money.You see it's sad that you hear it being viewed in monetary terms only,but I think the promoter is worried that if Ricky goes to America,then there's a good chance he could lose him,as it's happened before.
He also knows that he can't compete with American purse bids,so if he lets Ricky sign for a big fight stateside,he'll lose the promotion.
So in answer to your original question,it would look like Ricky should leave him,but you have to understand that Ricky is a humble boy with family-like loyalty to Morrison,and that goes back to when Ricky was going nowhere,and looked like just a decent domestic campaigner.
It's sad and I'd be lying if I said it didn't worry me.The best thing would be Broner getting the mandatory and utilising it.Ricky would then have to take a stand and I think he'd be too proud not to.