Rigo approaching 37

Brook is not a 160 fighter and I'm referring to his past struggles to get top MW opponents, his fight with Jacobs is very recent remember.

The comparison is when people were telling GGG should move up because no one in MW wanted to fight him.

 

I've previously stated he should move down to 118 and make Gonzalez his son

 

Not to me you didn't. You just kept blathering on about Quigg and Frampton like they were the be all and end all. That said, I'm glad you'd like to see him take on Gonzalez, Yamanaka and Inoue. Those are great fights that are open to him.

 

Doesn't matter, it was a secured money fight with a than pound for pound rated fighter.

Golovkin has managed to secure 9 opponents since 2014. 6 were recognized as top 10 outside of the sanctioning bodies (RING, ESPN, Boxrec..etc.) Has has unified two major titles in the IBF and WBC. Rigo has only managed to secure 5 opponents in this time, none were recognized as top 10 outside of the sanctioning bodies, and he has unified no titles.


In this time Golovkin has rose to become one of the largest draws in the States and has had 8 fights televised on HBO, 3 of which were PPVs. So it's clear one is having a much better time of securing opponents and earning exposure. No comparison at all.

That's just something a fringe on the internet was saying because they want him to lose, in truth there has been no real call from the media or fan majority for Golovkin to move up in weight to find opponents, because he has been fighting plenty of rated fighters and unifying titles.

 

You keep saying p4p rated fighter as if that's a consensus opinion, here's the p4p list at the time GGG fought Brook.

http://www.tbrb.org/2016/08/09/9-august-2016/

I don't remember many people (in fact not really even one person who's not a Brit) who rated Brook in the p4p.

But it doesn't matter from what perspective? In that he was still able to secure a big fight, true, but I'm referring to the time period before GGG fought Brook, I'll admit that his ability to secure fights is now in good shape.

But it should be mentioned that Brook's own struggles to find an opponent in HIS division and probably becoming desperate for a payday is what allowed that fight to happen. But point taken, I doubt Rigo would get a similar proposal.

True, but many of those opponents were on the lower bracket and weren't really considered elites of the division, the likes of Cotto, Canelo, Martinez avoided him and still do. Even Jacobs up until recently and BJS had no real interest in fighting him. Then if you go back a bit further you had guys like Geale dropping belts or guys choosing not to pursue their mandatories in order not to face him.

I think a difference between Rigo and GGG was GGG has been biding his time and staying active, that in the end allowed him to build his profile more and more and made himself a more attractive proposition and it paid off in the end, with Rigo it's an all or nothing approach, you either get Frampton, LSC or whatever in the ring or nothing at all. Of course GGG being a way more exciting fighter helped immensely.

I actually disagree with that, there was media pressure for GGG to move up, even from HBO, Max Kellerman in particular would often remark that perhaps he should move up if he struggles to find the big fight at 160.

 

What fights the he rejected? As long as I know quigg, mares, frampton, st+ they all say NO to Rigondeaux, and if you are referring to lomachenko's, well Rigondeaux wanted 10 lbs re-hydration clause, nothing out of the ordinary, and that was the sticky point, then again they were not in the same weight class. The after mentioned 4 were in the same division. The guy has been avoided like the plague...

 

A quote out of context is what got Tete looking silly. The full interview, he says he'd fight Rigondeaux in the future, after he has moved up and grown into the higher weight classes. For some reason some outlet just quoted, he'd love to challenge Rigondeaux, so when he turned the fight down people got on his case. He was a 115 pounder who had just had a fight at 118 at the time. He also said he can still make 115 fine. It looks a bit different when looking at the full interview.

 

that is a million more than he made sitting on his ass.

 

he coulda made so much more money.

 

At the end of the day.. Rigodeaux just didn't want any of that matrix work. He would have gotten knocked the **** out with that chin of his. Deep down he knew it.

And after Loma scores his second 'No Mas' victory in a year against Salido this summer.. Rigo will DEFINITELY pass on fighting Vasyl

 

I've stated many times on this forum, that Rigs should go down and fight Inoue, Gonzalez etc. at 118. He wouldn't be at as big a mass handicap, and he'd likely have more power.

 

Less than 500K? You Lomo Homos love to fabricate numbers. Fact of the matter is, is that Loma's handlers already said it would be career suicide to fight Crawford. They have no problem acknowledging their father.

 

That's interesting. So just because a man is not willing to move up two weight classes he's submitting to the man in a sexual sense. As that is what daddy/father means in this context. Very desperate and telling of your mind set.

If one your favorite fighters refused to move up two weight classes to immediately challenge a Champion, I'm sure you would not use such offensive terminology. I see what you are all about...

 

He was rated #10 P4P by RING and #7 P4P by Boxrec at the time of the fight.

Here is a list from ibtimes that has him #9. It wasn't a consensus but he had slipped into many publication's lists.

http://www.ibtimes.com/boxing-news-...canelo-alvarez-gennady-golovkin-andre-2390661

Even before Brook he was doing better than Rigo as I pointed out.

Outside of those three trading the lineal title, Golovkin was still able to land plenty of fights.

Stevens and Rubio were lower bracket, the rest I listed were not, and they were still regarded as good tests.

Yes, all true. Hence, why I find them to be very different career paths.

I recall most of the post fight talks regarding him against current lineal MW Champion..Martinez, then Cotto, and now Canelo, and of course if you can't get those fights will you move up? It just didn't feel like serious pressure to me, like "you aren't getting fights, you are wasting your prime, MOVE UP!" which is exactly what Rigo is going through right now.

 

Rigo, such a boring boxer, boxing to sleep by...........