Rigondeaux's hand not broken.

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I think he does have some pop coz he backs up all his opponent, and when he wants to he can crack abit just check his martinez KO. The reason why his punches look like all pitter patter is because he is moving or ready to move when he throws them. If he set his feet he could generate a lot more power than we are seeing.

 

Yeah but he doesn't exactly have a lot of experience forcing the knockout against somebody with the skills of a Rigondeaux. If the Cuban had set his mind on spoiling and surviving as negatively as possible, 100% defense, I doubt Lomachenko was going to impose a KO.

 

Martinez was weight drained. We can look at him landing flush shots on Walters, Marriaga, Rigs, and Russell Jr, and see that he isn't a big puncher. Walters walked through everything. Marriaga was off balance when he went down, and walked through harder punches that Loma landed outside of that. Russell Jr ate everything Loma hit him with, as did Rigondeaux. You can also look at Loma's fights against some of the lower skilled guys he fought. They go rounds even though he is hitting them flush repeatedly. According to many of you Rigondeaux has glass. What does that make Loma's power? He landed flush a few times.

 

I don’t know I think Loma was coming on strong the best Rigo could of done to prevent him from stopping him was get DQ’d coz Rigo was holding excessively. I think It’s possible Rigo could have seen it out but without the holding what else could he have done against Loma on the inside?

 

Nothing. That's my point. He could have just run.

Loma doesn't exactly know how to chase down world class defensive boxers and kayo them on the backfoot.

 

Ref would've stopped it eventually . Loma would've shut him down to the point he couldn't throw anything and it would be to one sided to watch apart from holding, whether Loma was making contact with all his shots or not.

 

He was holding the belt so I don’t wanna say he was weight drained unless it was at some catch weight. All these guys are tough dudes, no one except Walters has stopped Marriaga and he came in over the weight limit, Walters never been stopped before nor has Russell so none of them have shown very shaky chins.

Rigo was in survival mode from round 2-6 not sure what would have happened if he was more aggressive.

 

What would be the point of that though if he is gunna just try to survive he may as well quit.

 

So then why didn't the ref stop Narvaez when Donaire (a much bigger puncher than Lomachenko, and more of a KO artist by trade) was tagging him up in an increasingly one-sided affair? Donaire never had Lomachenko's speed or footwork but Narvaez was also pretty old in that matchup, and Rigondeaux isn't just some plotter with cement feet. Do we not think a determined-to-survive Rigondeaux could have pulled a Narvaez and just outrun Lomachenko enough to, combined with diving in to clinch, hang on until the final bell?

 

The original discussion was his options being a) quit or b) get kayoed. I'm simply pointing out there was an Option C if he wanted to escape without a stoppage loss.

 

No, the ref wouldn't allow him to excessively hold and that left him completely at Lomas mercy. I don't think he could escape enough against Rigo's footwork !

 

His hand wasn't borken, but his will WAS. Same with Walters and others

 

Nah...he got that bruise whacking off the night before the fight.

 

Whilst I’m not sure how viable option C is without getting himself DQ, I’ll say it is a possibility.