I like Berto. As I've told you before, he's the fighter that most reminds me of me. Oh ****, I thought you were directing this towards me. My bad, and no, SRR would beat Berto.
SRR is just better than Roy so I pick him to win. SRR is the 1 fighter who can punnish RJJ for his unorthodox errors. SRRs jab and straight right would be key, but not only that but also his combinations, timing and out and out warfare he could bring. Because SRR would tage RJJ more than he was ever tagged he may well have exposed RJJs not so great chin.
I think you have to favor Robinson in this and any match-up at 160, but it is anything but a sure thing. I would give Jones a good chance to beat any one from 160-200. It is not imposible for Jones to win, but I think Robinson would win this one.
Too many chin problems, but it would be competitive until he got KOed by Ray. Ray's skill level today would be top 30 at WW in my opinion, top 30 with a punch can KO Berto.
Why not study some tape of both from an unbiased point of view. In your mind, think of one as exhibit#1 and the other as exhibit#2. Watch a few full fights of #1 and #2 at MW, forget they are SRR and Roy Jones, then you will see who is superior, watch two MEN not two 'legendary NAMES'. Give it a shot mate, you'll see Ray stands no chance.
SRR is a slight bit overrated at MW. He is not the best MW of all time and there are a few ATG MW that could certainly beat him there. This isn't the WW version of SRR we are talking about here.
If you say so. Jones was beatable at his best, don't get me wrong, but not by a primitive era crop of fighters. Picking Ray over Jones is forgivable to a point because boxing fans are jaded, but picking Greb over Jones is more absurd than anything that my eccentric account posts on here.
And this is Roy Jones Jr we are talking about here. Roy is your favourite of all time, but you underrate him. He's a top 25 ever even when comparing era/era, and just straight up, he's a top 5 on ability. But you pick Hagler over him, I don't get it. Hagler is not in this league and never handled speed well even at his best... Why underrate one of the best ever just for the sake of being 'politically correct' to historian ****s? Would a top 30 WW-LMW today do anything to Jones? That's where Robinson's ability was truly at in comparison to modern fighters.
I don't underrate him. I rate him where I feel he rates. Just because you rate him differently doesn't make you correct nor does it mean I am trying to be politically correct. I don't give a damn what you think or anyone else, so I don't pander to any of you. It's ridiculous that posters on this site try to criticize others for not being biased and not being overbearing when they think they are correct. Don't preach to me Amsterdam. Your view of the truth isn't the only view. Jones is my favorite fighter of all time, and may very well be one of the best fighters ever H2H. My saying he loses to Hagler at 160, arguably the greatest MW of all time surely isn't a slight to Jones.
Ability wise, not resume, obviously. Resume is all you know however. It's a stylistic thing, speed would always trouble him and who's faster than Roy? He did beat Leonard, but that fight had as much relevance as Winky-B-Hop honestly for it's era. Two old 'p4p' guys cashing out on the senior circuit.
Styles. How would Roy fare under Hagler's relentless pressure? Roy was no slugger, and definitely wouldn't stand his ground with Hagler, so he would have no choice, but to box. That's great, and he could do it, but I think that Roy would succumb to Hagler's determination, volume of punches, and hard hitting hands. Blows to the body would eventually wear Roy down, and then Roy would take some shots to the chin and fall down.