Robin Deakin, journeymen?

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Only ten losses of 256 were by stoppage, though. Deakin has more stoppage losses with only a sixth Buckley's sum experience.
     
  2. billy nelson

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    Peter represented England in the amatuers and I remember Scott fighting him twice and not really landing many flush shots, he was a class act at what he done
     
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    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Yeah, I think he is pretty much universally respected by those who actually knew what he was about. (you can spot those whose expertise is rooted in five seconds of Boxrec from their casual derision of him and his ilk: Max Maxwell, Lee Noble, Ernie Smith, etc)

    The mark of a really good journeyman is twofold: large contingent of their opponents being undefeated prospects groomed for success, and very low rate of having lost by stoppage. If you have both of those components, then any # of losses is forgivable as you are in all likelihood providing a valuable service to developing top boxers and weeding out the rest (or rather, developing them as well for however far they will make it).

    We do have a few of that sort on this side of the pond. Rayco Saunders springs immediately to mind. He can be a hassle for nearly anybody, stopped only twice in nearly fifty outings and has faced several past or future contenders.

    If you are racking up that many losses but not adequately defending yourself from harm, then you are not helping the prospects you are fed to learn anything (ie dealing with frustrating, hard-to-hit styles)...just soaking up damage for peanuts, and nobody ought to be allowed to do that past a certain point in a regulated sport in the civilized world.

    It seems Deakin might be headed that way...but if he can improve his defense and make a solid run of at least not being stopped for a while, then fair play to him if & when his BBBofC license is reinstated.
     
  4. LeeJonesJnr

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    I would be very surprised if the BBBoC ever reinstate his license.
    I haven't seen him box more than once or twice so don't feel qualified to say if he should still be boxing or not. He was set up for a win on his last outing and didn't get it though.
     
  5. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's a danger to himself as he's turning up and taking punishment because he's genuinely trying to win. most journeymen know they're in the ring for the prospect to learn the ropes and get a W on the record, they might get a win here and there but the best way they can do their job is to avoid punishment. As Mcallister said I don't think he even realises he's a journeyman, he's just lost to a guy with a 0-11-0 record. I understand his right to earn a living from boxing but if he's going to do that then do it the right way and avoid taking beatings.

    Hope the board see sense and don't reinstate his license or have a meeting wit him and discuss it because as people have said he's obviously had a hard childhood etc and doesn't deserve to have his health ruined.
     
  6. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    :lol: No, was being serious!

    Just checked it out, he apparently won 45 from 70 amateur contests.

    So won a good deal more than he lost!