Rocky: A Face Forward Fighter?

I asked you first?

 

I'll do better. You first choose the thread. Cherry pick it so as to make at difficult as possible for me to find examples. If you decline that, I'll just go with the first google search result forum that pops up using the terms "Marciano+skills+competetion".

 

You actually didn't. You posted yours while I was typing mine. But in any case you're once again misunderstanding the burden of evidence, which you do frequently.

 

I'm going out to dinner. We'll see if you've specified a thread when I get back. My sole stipulation is that the main subject be Marciano and the level of his abilities and/or competition.

 

P.S. Don't make it too easy on me.

 

The thing is, when people talk "speed" in boxing it's usually relative to a fighter's opponents. Critical assessments of a boxer's speed usually come up: a) when he's being matched against someone much faster or; b) when he's being matched against someone much bigger.

Gassiev is certainly slow, and I bet this will be more widely discussed whenever he stops cutting weight and takes on some of the bigger heavies.

 

I have not misunderstood any burden of evidence, here or elsewhere. You claimed that "it's also clear that anything short of cavalier dismissal of his abilities and his competition is absolutely guaranteed to be labeled by some as 'worship.'" I called BS and asked you to provide examples to support your claim. But if you're unwilling or unable to do so, that's fine by me. Since you've given me no reason to think otherwise, I'll just continue to hold my belief that your claim is a gross exaggeration.

 

Why would I do any such thing?

 

It relates to Rocky because his subpar speed would be a major liability against some of the much bigger (and occasionally much faster) heavyweight champions that he gets matched up against in this forum. If we're speculating about how he would fare against Foreman (young or old), Tyson, or even Tony Tucker, etc., for example, he's slow enough that his speed would be a potentially significant liability, given his relatively diminutive stature and short arms.

 

Reznick, Im still waiting for you to actually refute what i posted, or are you going to continue ducking and answering questions with questions? I havent insulted you or did anything disrespectful. You started the thread and are playing defense, the least you can do is try to set the record straight and prove me wrong. Im not exactly alone or even unique in my assertations.

 

Ali did not have superb defence ,he had superb reflexes.
Ali was never dropped by a 38 years old fighter.
Ali was never dropped by a 40 years old fighter.
Ali had 61 fights, over a third of of them when past prime how many times was he marked up in those fights?
How many times was he cut?
Ali wasn't cut in6 fights.
Ali was never in danger of being stopped by cuts.
Why even mention him in a discussion about Marciano?

You keep insisting Marciano had good defence though Louis said he had the style of a street brawler,, it must be a comfort to you.