Rocky marciano vs the future champions

Rocky had one of, if not the most impressive division runs in history if you look at his performances and how he dominated competition.
Highest KO rate.
One of the best KO reels in history, and we only have his last 10 fights.


The modern SHWs were too big for Jones.
He didn't have the attributes to test their waters.

 

If everyone here said that taller fighters can't beat Marciano, and Shkor got close, then this example would make sense.

Besides that, it's a bad comparison.

 

TALE OF THE TAPE
Hlfld Tyson
Record 33-3 45-2
KOs 24 39
Age 34 30
Weight 218 218
Height 6-2 1/2 5-11 1/2
Reach 77 1/2 71
Chest (normal) 43 43
Chest (expanded) 45 45
Biceps 16 16
Forearm 12 1/2 14
Waist 32 34
Thigh 22 27
Calf 13 19
Neck 19 1/2 20 1/2
Wrist 7 1/2 8
Fist 12 1/2 13


Holyfield-Moorer Tale of the Tape
By The Associated Press
The tale of the tape for Evander Holyfield's WBA and Michael Moorer's IBF heavyweight titles to be held Nov. 8 at the Mirage in Las Vegas

Holyfld Moorer
Weight 214 223
Height 6-2 1/2
Age 34 29
Reach 77 1/2 78
Chest (normal) 43 42 1/2
Chest (expanded) 45 44
Biceps 16 17
Forearm 12 1/2 14
Waist 32 34
Thigh 22 26 1/2
Calf 13 17
Neck 19 1/2 20
Wrist 7 1/2 8
Fist 12 1/2 12

The Tale of the TapeAge: 46Height: 6’2 ½ Homeland: Atlanta, GeorgiaTurned Professional: November 11, 1984 (UD6 Lionel Byarm)Record: 42-10-2, 27 KORecord in Title Fights: 15-7-2, 8 KOLineal World Titles: World Cruiserweight (1988, 0 Defenses); World Heavyweight (1990-92, 3 Defenses; 1993-94, 0 Defenses)Other Major Titles: WBA Cruiserweight (1986-88, 5 Defenses); IBF Cruiserweight (1987-88, 3 Defenses); WBC Cruiserweight (1988, 0 Defenses); WBC/WBA/IBF Heavyweight (1990-92, 3 Defenses); WBA/IBF Heavyweight (1993-94, 0 Defenses); WBA Heavyweight (1996-99, 4 Defenses); IBF Heavyweight (1997-99, 2 Defenses); WBA Heavyweight (2000-01, 0 Defenses) - See more at: http://www.*******.com/measured-against-all-time-evander-holyfield--17642#sthash.H29FElUM.dpuf

 

No its an excellent example by way of singling out an exception to the rule.. Shkor was a super heavyweight who did jack shlt in that era and I've ACTUALLY seen people try to use that as a reason why other super heavyweights would fail against Rocky.. And Norris being a 200 + lbs fringe contender who had mixed results against other modern fringe contenders doesn't say anything about how a man who never even cracked 200 in his life would do.

 

Slow of hand and foot, yall.

https://streamable.com/6xpza

 

He soundly took a world title from a 6'2", 226 lbs man in his prime.. Rocky never did.

 

But this isn't a discussion of what Norris did most of the time. It's about how he approached big heavyweights. I brought up three fighters that fit the criteria whom he did not fight at range.

So we have 199 and 192 debuts between men of similar dimensions. I see a basis for comparison.

Been addressed.

Why? The whole point is Norris isn't of Maricano's caliber, yet he had some success by adding a few pounds and adapting some stylistic similarities. I've noted Norris was inconsistent as a fighter and always lacked punching power.

You are going to have to be specific. What exactly are you talking about? What 12 round fight, did I base an argument on from isolated seconds? I'm assuming you don't have an answer or you would have been specific, please...prove me wrong. Show where I did this.

Really? That's what you see happening here? I don't see any blasting out, I'm not sure anything even hit Norris.

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You'll also find plenty of scathing write ups regarding Norris' performance if you peek round, heck even box rec notes it. I hate it break it to you but I didn't invent the Norris bottled it theory.

But we know how Rocky fared against the heavyweights from his era....so I ask again, what are you getting at? Norris was inconsistent and got knocked out by a smaller man? If you can't see it for that, what's the alternative Miller was a bigger puncher than Golota and Tucker? Maybe size don't matter. What are you getting at?

But that's the point. It's a theoretical discussion.

 

Nobody uses Shkor as the reason to pick Rocky over Wlad.
They use it to correctly state that a SHW can't beat Rocky just by the merit of being a SHW.

 

It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

 

Because that opportunity didn't exist.
You gonna take points away from him for not having an iPhone too?

 

They shrunk 6 foot Tyson to 5'10"..cut him down in his prime.

 

Any champion on the thread makers list just a SHW? Or are they quality SHW's? I think the word quality is important here.

 

No.. But when we never saw it happen we don't automatically credit a person for doing something they never did.

 

Oh but people have. I've been here 10 years.

 

So posters here credit Rocky for wins that never had?
Where?

Lol and we don't discredit them either.
Rocky did beat guys that size, they just weren't champions.