Roger Stafford

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  1. Senor Pepe'

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    Roger 'The Dodger' Stafford

    Started out as a Philadelphia 'club-fighter' 1977 thru 1980.

    A smooth boxing 'Welterweight' with good hand speed, endurance and a decent defense.

    Ran his record to 12-1-0 (7 KO's), on the 'club circuit', fighting in;
    * St. Louis
    * Montreal
    * Los Angeles
    * Louisville, Kentucky
    * Las Vegas
    * White Plains, New York

    Fight purses ranging from $200 to $375

    Got a 'lucky break' when he got a position in an ESPN Welterweight Tournament in 1980.

    In May 1980, on an ESPN-TV fight, fought to an 8-Round Draw with another Philadelphia club-fighter,
    Bernard Peterson 4-0-0. (4 KO's).

    In August 1980, fought Bernard Peterson 4-0-1 (4 KO's) again on an ESPN-TV 'Thursday Night Fight',
    and was out-hustled, and lost an 8-Round Decision, which bumped him from the Tournament.

    Fell to 12-2-1 (7 KO's), and looked to be 'relegated' to the 'B' Level club fighter status.
     
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    Roger 'The Dodger' Stafford

    September 4, 1980

    Gets a break, when Bernard Peterson (whom Roger lost an 8-Round Decision to)
    falls out of the ESPN 'Thursday Night Tournament'.

    Roger gets a call as a 'last minute replacement' to face hard-punching Philadelphia
    Welterweight, Johnny Cooper 12-3-3 (7 KO's). Cooper has been on a tear, Knocking-out
    6 of his last 7 opponents.

    Johnny Cooper is the betting favorite at 9-5 odds.

    Roger gets the upper-hand on Johnny Cooper early, and drops him for a 5-Count in
    Round 3. From there, Roger boxes smartly and wins a solid 10-Round Decision (W Dec 10).
    The win over Johnny Cooper is considered a 'mild upset'.

    Roger improves to 13-2-1.
     
  3. Duodenum

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    Roger is the source of one of my favorite post fight interview challenges ever. After winning a match on ESPN, Sal Marciano and Al Bernstein asked him what was next, and he exuberantly proclaimed, "I want Pipino Cuevas!" Bernstein's reaction (complete with befuddled quizzical facial expression) after that interview suggested that he wasn't sure Stafford was playing with a full deck. ("Wanting Pipino Cuevas?":huh:blood:silly)

    This was like a club fighter saying, "I want Earnie Shavers! I want David Tua!" At the time, it was one of the craziest challenges ever uttered in a post fight interview, utterly maniacal. Hearns had blown Jose out with his freakish height and reach, but it was still believed that Cuevas could fracture the bones of anybody he could get to, including Roger (who I believe was 5'8" like Pipino). Going back over five years, Cuevas was 14-1 with 13 knockouts. Only Randy Shields, in his greatest career performance, had managed to last the distance. Stafford might as well have been challenging the Manson family to a handicap knife fight.
     
  4. lora

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    The 80s Oba Carr
     
  5. Senor Pepe'

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    Roger 'The Dodger' Stafford,,,,,from North Philadelphia

    Roger kept on winning those 'ESPN Thursday Night Fights'

    On December 4, 1980,,,,,,,,,Roger and 'Tough' Tony Suero 7-0-1 went at it.
    But, Roger was the 'tougher one' and won a close, but unanimous 8-Rounder. {W Dec 8}

    But one of his early 'big wins' was in January 1981,,,,

    Roger went to Las Vegas, to take on #17 WBC Welterweight, Kenny Crooms 15-1-2 (12 KO's).
    Kenny a 'knock-out artist' from Los Angeles, was the 'one' everybody was talking about, as a
    'potential opponent' for former WBA Champion, Pipino Cuevas.

    The 5' 9" Roger boxed beautifully, and won a clear-cut Unanimous 10-Round (W Dec 10)
    Decision.

    Roger Stafford improved to 15-2-1 (7 KO's), and earned a #16 WBC rating.

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    TKO Dave,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    More on Roger 'The Dodger' Stafford

    In June 1981,,,,,,,,,,he took on the other Top Philadelphia Weltwerweight, 'undefeated' Kevin Howard.

    Yet again, on an 'ESPN Thursday Night Fight.

    June 4, 1981 - at The Playboy Hotel in Atlantic City - For the ESPN Welterweight Championship.

    Roger 15-2-1 (7 KO's) and Kevin Howard 10-0-1 (6 KO's) battled evenly for 10-Rounds, but Roger
    got the Majorty Decision (M Dec 10). It was the first loss for the 'tough Philly banger'.
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    The fight was so good at The Playboy Hotel, that ESPN put the both of them together again on July 30, 1981.
     
  7. PhillyPhan69

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    As much as I like Stafford, I don't think this a fair comparrison...i would say Carr was a clear notch above Stafford...Just my take.
     
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    Ahhhhhh, what the heck.....nevermind I like it!
     
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    Philly,,,,,,,,,

    That would have been a good bout, Roger vs Oba,,,,,,,,

    But, me being from the 'old school' 1965 thru 1985,,,,,,,,,,,,

    I'll take Roger, who I believe was 'stronger' than Oba.

    A 12-Round bout for the,,,,,,,,,,,,,"ESPN Philadelphia vs. Detroit Welterweight Championship".

    A close-bout, but Roger by 2-points,,,,,,,,,,6-4-2 in Rounds.
     
  10. lora

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    Nah, Carr was the more hyped early on, but he never really beat anyone of note during his runs(and was "exposed" by an old shot journeyman Bramble)...he was fortunate to find himself in three title fights.I'll take Stafford's win over Cuevas over anything Oba achieved.

    Skills and talent wise they were similar fighters, but stafford was more versatile and could brawl a bit too.Carr was physically quite weak and couldn't really fight inside or slug.

    Both solid contenders for a few years.Oba probably should have tried harder to stay at 140.
     
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    Roger 'The Dodger' Stafford

    Thursday, July 30, 1981

    Philadelphia Welterweight Championship (10 Rounds)

    Martin Luther King Arena, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

    ESPN Televised

    Roger Stafford 16-2-1 (7 KO's),,,,,,,,#15 Ranked Welterweight
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    Kevin Howard 11-1-1 (7 KO's),,,,,,,,,,#18 Ranked Welterweight

    27 year-old Roger Stafford used sharp left jabs and right-hand crosses to rally from behind, to
    squeeze out a Majority Decision (M Dec 10) over 20 year-old Kevin Howard.

    In a battle of promising Philly Welterweights, the 'two' bangers who had fought each other in June,
    battled in another close fight.

    The younger Kevin Howard, who showed better strength in the early rounds, faded a bit, as
    the classy 'Dodger' scored with crisp left jabs during the middle rounds of the fight. Stafford,
    also landed several hard right-hand crosses in Rounds 8 and 9, to even the bout on the
    scorecards.

    In the final round, it was Stafford who exhibited greater strength and cleaner punches
    to win the round, and earn the Majority Decision.

    Scorecards;
    Referee; 97-95 (5-3-2 in Rounds) Roger Stafford
    Judge 1; 96-96 (4-4-2 in Rounds) Even
    Judge 2; 96-95 (5-4-1 in Rounds) Roger Stafford

    Fight Purses;
    Roger Stafford; $6000
    Kevin Howard; $6000

    Attendance; 4600
     
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    Roger 'The Dodger' Stafford

    November 1981

    #1 Welterweight Pipino Cuevas 29-7-0 (26 KO's), having comeback with '2' Knock-out wins
    since losing to Thomas Hearns ( L KO 2) in August 1980, is back at the #1 slot. Looking for
    one more 'tune-up bout' before challenging for the World Welterweight Title, held
    by Ray Leoanrd, Pipino takes on Philly Welterweight, 27 year-old Roger Stafford.

    Roger, is now rated #10 in the World, and is sporting a 17-2-1 (7 KO) record. The
    slick-boxer from Philadelphia exhibits good boxing skills in the ring, and is not only
    a smooth boxer, but also possesses, a good chin and an armor-proof defense.

    Boxing pundits, say that Roger Stafford is much like Ray Leonard in style and in
    quickness, and this will be a good pre-Leonard fight work-out for Pipino Cuevas.
    The knock on Roger, is his power, as he has none. In his last 9-bouts, Roger has not
    scored a Knock-out win, and has only scored '3' knockdowns in posting a 7-1-1 record
    over that time.

    In Pipino, he has scored impressive blow-out Knock-out wins over Bernardo Prada (KO 2) in
    February 1981, and a (KO 1) over Jorgen Hansen in June 1981. Though Pipino still carries the
    power-punches and a crushing left-hook, he still is vulnerable to punches, as he continues to
    use the wild wide-open style.

    The question about Pipino, is that he has not had to go longer than a Round and a half in any
    of last '3' bouts. Since August 1980 (16-Months), Pipino has spent approximately 7-minutes in the ring,
    when in competition.
     
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  14. Sister Sledge

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    I grew up in the 70s and 80s and remember Stafford well. He was not as good as Carr. He was just a good contender who was not good enough to even put up a decent title challenge. Curry annihilated him. Carr was unfortunate to have fought three elite champions In a lesser era, he could have won a title. Stafford would have never won a title.

    Stafford was a good contender. Carr was very good.
     
  15. MRBILL

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    Stafford beat a faded Cuevas in circa 1981 and was smoked by Curry in 1983... He was suppose to get waxed by SRL earlier in 1982, but Ray's eye surgery cancelled the fight... Stafford was later shot in the back and is now rolling in a chair... Other than that, I never really saw him fight other than his horrid showing against a prime Don Curry.....

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