roland lastarza vs ron lyle....

I just reviewd "Marci-Starza 2" last night........ Starz was tall, but Marci was thicker..... Both near or at 190 pounds--MAXIMUM!

Starz doesn't own the size or firepower to ward off either "Lyle or Quarry." I'm not even sure a '53 version of Rolando could beat a '76 Young.......... TRUTH!!

MR.BILL

 

Roland Lastarza was 6'0 190lb. Jerry Quarry was 6'0 195lb. Not exactley a big size difference. In fact, they are roughly the same size. Quarry matches up great with any big slugger out there, but the guy struggled tremendously with defensive boxers, and small ones too(Ellis and Machen both under 200lb).

Eddie Machen was well past his prime and only 193lb when he outboxed Quarry. Ellis was only 197lb. These men were the same size as Roland.

I think Lyle would beat Roland, but probably by late knockout. It will take him a while to penetrate roland's high gaurd. It took Rocky 11 rounds. I think Lyle's strength punching power and aggresiveness will be too much for Roland down the stretch. Had roland proved to me he could beat a bob baker or nino valdes, then I would be more likely to pick Roland. But beating Gene Gosney doesn't prove too much to me.

 

I have this match up on my all time contenders thread: Here how I See it.

Round 1, Bracket B.

Lastarza vs Lyle

Lastarza was an excellent boxer with speed, accuracy and reasonable mobility. Lastarza out boxed several contender in his era. He matches up well vs slower punchers or boxers his size, but failed to score a KO vs his best opposition. His main draw backs were lack of power and an Ok chin.

Lyle was an early version of a skilled super heavyweight. He was tall, and fought at a good weight his size. Lyle was also a fine boxer with good power. Lyle scored some nice wins in a tough era. His main draw back was his chin vs the bigger punchers. Lyle also had fits with top pressure fighters, and seemed to lack the extra something special to win his biggest matches, though he nearly did so vs Foreman and Ali.

As the fighters enter the ring, the difference in the way the fighters are built is obvious. Lyle starts out as the aggressor in round one. It’s mostly a feeling out process. Lastarza is moving well. In round two, Lastarza's footwork and quick jab scores. Lastrarza takes round two. In round three is even. Lastarza does well in the early part, but Lyle rocks Lastarza with a 1-2 at the end of the round. Rounds four, and five are Lyle's. He has figured out Lastarza's style and feels confident that he can take his punch. Lastarza is too defensive. Lyle works the body and the head equally well. Round six is all Lyle's. He catches Lastarza in the corner and peppers him with shots. Lyle's superior height and reach has zoned Lastarza. As Lastarza tries to get out of the corner, he is caught with a wild hook. He's stunned! Lyle lands two hard right hands, and an uppercut. Lastarza sinks to the canvas. 1....2....3....4.....5....6.... ( DING the bell sounds ) ....7...and he's up at 8.

Form here on in the fight is mostly Lyle's. Lyle wins rounds seven, eight, nine and ten. Lyle is just landing the harder shots and making the fight. Lastarza has his moments in round eleven when he lands a beautiful three punch combination, which earns Lastarza the round. Round twelve and Thirteen are rather boring and can only be scored for either fighter or as an even round. Round fourteen starts out with action. Lastraza lands early, and then runs. Ring side observers feel that Lyle is beginning to tire. Lyle is offering little chase. Lastarza is the fresher of the two. Round fourteen goes to Lastarza. The final round starts out with an early exchange. Lyle gets the better of it. Lastraza chooses not to engage for rest of the round. The final bell rings. We go to the score cards.

It’s a unanimous decision for Lyle on points. The best card has it 9 rounds to 5 for Lyle with one round even. Lyle received a 10-8 round in the sixth frame.


Historical reasoning: Lyle had the power to KO guys like Shavers, Garcia, Kirkman, and Mathis. He nearly Ko'd Foreman! Lyle also had the skills to out box fighters like Ellis, and Bugner. He nearly out boxed Ali! Although it meant nothing in this fight, Lyle beat a fair swarmer in Bonnevena. My point is, it seems that only the best punchers, the best swarmers or the best boxers could beat Lyle. Lastraza was a good boxer, but is best stuff on the outside was limited due to Lyle’s equally good skills and superior height, and reach. Lastarza did not have the puncher's chance in this fight either, and he certainly was not one to mix in exchanges with bigger punchers. So the best call is Lyle wins, and Lastarza finishes the fight on his feet.