Ross Purrity vs Sonny Liston

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Not quite the reality of the situation. Wlad lost because he expended too much energy punching and retreating on the backfoot.

    He was put in this position by Purrity who kept moving forward. He may not have been throwing a lot , but he was applying a steady stream of pressure which forced Wlad into throwing far more punches than he wanted to. He succumbed to physical and mental fatigue ...because of Purrity.
    This his why he incorporated his huggy bear strategy and implemented it in every fight , regardless of how good or bad the opponent was.

    40 year old Mormeck at the end of his career?? Relentless hugging , groping and back humping.

    https://www.boxingnews24.com/2012/03/wladimir-clinched-15-times-in-the-1st-round-against-mormeck/

    Here's the Purrity fight so you can see for yourself. Clipped from round 6

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  2. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I had no issue with BCS8 but then he started to troll and bait like a year ago. I even called him out on it when he was suggesting Golovkin would have a chance vs Louis. His logic was because of Conn having success vs Louis which is an obvious bait/troll post.

    After that i stopped engaging with him because it was quite apparent he was baiting with his posts. This is our first discussion in probably like 6 months ? He replied to me in this thread so I thought I'd give him the benefit of the doubt but it's quite apparent nothing has changed.
     
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  3. BCS8

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    Nah, Classic just being classic.
    Good job on forgetting the entire context of that argument.
    It's apparent that you agree that Ross didn't go into a shell after being hammered and fought back well against a variety of good opponents. Now you've gone back and discovered that I opined that Liston could outbox Puritty early on in the thread. Out of options to be contrarian, you're throwing the toybox over. OK, your call.
     
  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    If Purrity were around back then and lost to Liston, the fight would endlessly be touted as a bulletproof reason for picking Liston over every skilled big guy from Bowe to Zhang.
     
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  5. Spreadeagle

    Spreadeagle Active Member Full Member

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    Nah,people wouldn't get that excited.Anybody who knows anything about boxing would expect an ATG
    like Sonny Liston to beat Purrity.
     
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  6. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    NOT ZHANG!!!
     
  7. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not true because Lyle was stabbed in abdomen damaging several of his organs not just kidney like Cleveland Williams and this was before even Lyle started boxing.
    Williams regained 90 percent of his power by hard labor working on farm and training the hardest he could but Lyle did too.
     
  8. BCS8

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    Puritty looks just like Vitali to me ... :p
     
  9. Spreadeagle

    Spreadeagle Active Member Full Member

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    Ok ,well what seems like the 1,000th time let me explain to you just
    what Cleveland Williams had to deal with :
    The .357 magnum bullet moved across Cleveland's intestines and doing immense
    damage to Williams's colon and right kidney.
    Williams had to undergo four operations which resulted in the loss of 60lbs and the
    removal of his right kidney.
    Williams suffered permanent partial paralysis of some of his kidney muscles and a
    severly weakened right hip joint.
    The bullet had also penetrated his ureter.
    Whilst acknowledging the trauma suffered by Ron Lyle it is pretty obvious Ron did
    not incur the sort of injuries that tangibly impacted on his career as a boxer.
     
  10. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lyle suffered permanent organs injury including liver and other rogans injury.
    You can't be stabbed in the abdomen, die few times on the operating table and say you don't have permanent injuries, that'a dumb as hell but hey...I can't expect anything better from you.

    Do you know how big injury is being stabbed in the liver and other organs?
    I guess you don't.
     
  11. Spreadeagle

    Spreadeagle Active Member Full Member

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    No, of course being stabbed in such a way was traumatic, but did Lyle suffer from permanently wasted muscles
    or permanently weakened joints ? You know,the sort of injuries that would have impacted on his career ?
    Please illustate,yes actually show, how any injuries suffered by Lyle actually impeded his progress as a
    boxer ?
    How would a liver that incurred stab trauma affect Lyle's mobility ?
     
  12. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes he did, Lyle did 1000 pushups every day so he could gain muscles back and started boxing so he could get back in shape.

    Lyle could not take body shots, Cooney showed that because that part of his body was lifelong injured.

    Do you think muscle mass loss and injured joints are as bad as stabbed liver with other organs too?
     
  13. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lyle suffered permament liver damage, no abdomen muscles because they were screwed plus multiple other organs injured...I think that it hurts Lyle as bad as Williams but Lyle haven't reached his prime yet unlike Williams, and Lyle even with that many injuries did better than Williams.
     
  14. Spreadeagle

    Spreadeagle Active Member Full Member

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    Oh come on,Gerry Cooney was probably the most brutal body-puncher in heavyweight history.His body
    shots would have done that to just about any heavyweight in history.
     
  15. Spreadeagle

    Spreadeagle Active Member Full Member

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    Cleveland Williams injuries undoubtedly affected his balance and range of movement,so therefore
    it would have definitely reduced his punching power.
    Abdomen muscles generally recover after a stabbing,so does liver tissue.Do you have any source
    that confirms Ron suffered permanent stomach and liver damage ? Not the inevitable short-term
    damage that a stabbing would inflict but a reliable source that confirmed Lyle incurred permanent
    damage to his stomach and liver.