Rounds 1, 2, and 5

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by PH|LLA, Oct 26, 2009.

  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2007
    Messages:
    79,438
    Likes Received:
    2,647
    Are all rounds that I scored for Machida. It was a good fight. Shogun looked great. But i don't think you can watch those rounds individually and say that there's no way Machida won them.

    Round 1 was the closest. Round 2 was pretty clear imo. In round 5, even though Machida's body language was dead he still landed some really hard shots and pulled it off by some distance imo.

    If you have the fight on your computer, watch those rounds again and then give your reply.
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2006
    Messages:
    404,288
    Likes Received:
    86,365
    The only problem I have with round 1 is that while Machida's defense was consistent throughout, his offense was limited to that great volley of knees that he began with, and that spectacular head kick - all of which came in the first 2 minutes. Nothing else of note really landed for him in that round.

    Also, it was a case of "great defense, better offense".

    I was rooting hard for Machida and just can't see giving him that round.

    Of course, I haven't watched it since the live broadcast. Been meaning to. Good fight (and a shame that it's overshadowed by all the debate).
     
  3. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2007
    Messages:
    20,005
    Likes Received:
    7
    How can you score round 5 for MAchida?? He did **** in that round.

    MAchida to me won the first three. Some might say that all three rounds are toss-ups and I can understand that. But Shogun won rds 4 and 5 without a shadow of a doubt.
     
  4. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2006
    Messages:
    3,713
    Likes Received:
    1
    I gave rounds 1 and 5 to Shogun and round 2 was REALLY close. When I first saw it I had it even, Machida winning the first half and Shogun the second, but upon rewatching it I gave it to Shogun. Nothing Machida did seemed to damage Shogun at all, but Shogun damaged Machida.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2006
    Messages:
    404,288
    Likes Received:
    86,365
    Even with the sound off, Shogun was the more effective in the first two rounds. That isn't to say he was getting everything his way or that Machida wasn't effective - Rua was just more effective.
     
  6. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2004
    Messages:
    8,929
    Likes Received:
    39
    I had round 1 and 2 a toss-up

    3 clearly for Machida and 4-5 clear for Rua.
     
  7. bachatu

    bachatu Pro Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2006
    Messages:
    4,779
    Likes Received:
    8
    lol round 5? Come on PH, I know you can score better than this. I was rooting for Machida to come back strong but was disappointed. The round he clearly won I thought was round 3, rounds 1, 2 were edged by Shogun and I was really trying to give Machida the benefit of the doubt. To be honest, scoring either round 1 or 2 would feel like "giving" him the round despite the other guy landing the more telling blows. Look at his legs, his body, and body language throughout. it was obvious who was landing the more telling blows. The mistake he made in trying to avoid the leg kicks was to only try to elude the kick by moving out of distance, but it seemed Shogun was ready for this as he would chase him down like he was chasing a soccer ball and would continue kicking. I guess its unfair to call it a mistake considering this method of defense has been successful for him in the past, so I think all we can say is he didn't make the necessary adjustments early on before it became too late and it took its effect.
     
  8. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2007
    Messages:
    14,226
    Likes Received:
    5
    Round 5 was the clearest round for shogun.
     
  9. gambleer

    gambleer Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2007
    Messages:
    2,715
    Likes Received:
    234
    I agree Machida clearly won round 3 and Shogun clearly won rounds 4 and 5.
    Rounds 1 and 2 were damn close.

    In this case, what counted was that the challenger had to take the belt from the champion.
     
  10. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2007
    Messages:
    28,518
    Likes Received:
    86
    Thanks, you`ve just admitted Shogun won the fight.....

    The reason ?..... Shogun without doubt won rds 4 & 5, not even those fat corrupt **** judges gave Machida rd 5, not one of them.
     
  11. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2007
    Messages:
    28,518
    Likes Received:
    86
    He cant tho, this behaviour is the norm for him, I fear he isnt trolling & might actually believe this **** :-(
     
  12. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2007
    Messages:
    6,938
    Likes Received:
    0
    WHAT? round 5 to Machida? He didnt do a thing, common philla
     
  13. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2007
    Messages:
    28,518
    Likes Received:
    86
    Once he rewatches rd 5 with his eyes open & scores it for Rua (like any non-****) he`ll likely give Machida rd 3, that way Machida still wins - on his card.
     
  14. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2008
    Messages:
    18,334
    Likes Received:
    3
    Shogun won the fight, he was robbed. He gave machida a beating with those leg kicks to the body and to the legs.
     
  15. Thom

    Thom Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2006
    Messages:
    5,621
    Likes Received:
    21
    I've seen a few other people on other MMA forums with this scorecard, and I just don't get it. How could you possibly have given the last round to Machida? I can sort of understand the case for the first two rounds (even though I didn't score them that way myself), but the fifth? :huh