roy jones is training Eubank jr

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  1. Power_tek

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  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    There`s a pic of Roy training with Chris.
     
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    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I stand by my right to laugh at the sun
     
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  4. Pimp C

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    Debatable but he's not a quitter like icc jr is.
     
  5. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In both fights, Watson got on the front foot and dominated ring centre. He made Eubank come to him. In the first fight this wasn't particularly noticeable as they were both dead at the weight. In the second fight, a blind man on a galloping horse can see it.
    Chris Snr was crafty and canny but still fell into Watson's traps time and time again. Junior has very little craft. He is strong, fit and very game but Watson would have played a tune on him.
     
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  6. LoadedGlove

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    Course you can mate. Re Groves' jab, yes excellent but Watson had more variation in how he used his, when he chose to show it or throw it. That's a nightmare for a more one dimensional Fighter like Jnr.
     
  7. navigator

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    Roy teaching Eubank how to fight like Roy won't do much for him. He needs to be encouraged/taught to fight in a rugged pressure style from behind a high guard – all things considered, that's the best fit for what Junior has to work with, and he should have been firmly guided in that direction after the Blackwell fight.

    I tend to think the ship sailed on Chris when he blew the Groves opportunity. Even as limited as Callum Smith is, he was able to emphatically prove that George was there to be took (as I'd thought was the case for some time).




    You're way off here, Mark. Watson was a different caliber to Groves, much more rounded, would have beaten Junior any way he fancied. Benn might well have eaten an uppercut or three, but he would have ended up hurting Chris badly. And Rocky would've given him a good working over, too. Tough pool of fighters you're talking about.
     
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  8. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Watson was real rusty against McCallum following the postponements due to his injuries (Mike M took advantage of a perfect warm up to sharpen up v limited novice Steve Collins and rightly so) so with his timing off Duff advised him to just rush McCallum and try to overwhelm him (not wise). He still did good and landed plenty of right hands and blocked most head shots, with that jab off though he was countered to the body when he fell short from early on.

    Against Eubank in the first fight he was clearly in better fighting shape through fighting regularly, but stood off Christopher and was pretty much picked off at will for nine rounds (credit to v impressive skill/reflexes from CE) before Eubank ran out of strength in the 10th (via CE's extreme weight-making measures for that fight (19lb in four days, weighing in hours before entering the ring)). If you watch the 10th round, Eubank can barely stand and not through a punch landing! Watson took the last three rounds and maybe the sixth round, making it quite a clear 8-4 points win for young Christopher.

    In the infamous rematch, Eubank and Watson set a ferocious pace with almost zero jabs and Watson is as sharp as hell, totally outworking Eubank - who should've worked the jab and gone to the body - inside. How Eubank survived that beatdown I'll never know, let alone to win the damn fight...proving himself truly great to get up and deliver a picture perfect shot like that so late on in a fight that fast paced and brutal between two huge ripped young London raised beasts exchanging combos all night!

    I don't see Eubank Jr as cut from the same cloth. He just doesn't flow or keep his shape.
     
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  9. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Watson at 24-25-26 was always improving with each fight and starting to peak.

    Eubank Jr is already 31 and hasn't really impressed yet against anyone near their best.

    In 1989-92 it was a hot bed almost like no other divisions at any other time.
     
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  10. Bulldog24

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    As for Eubank Jr and Nigel Benn. Come on guys! Different universes entirely.

    In the time Jr has been a pro, Benn had fought his entire career in that time ie two-time world champion with 10 or 12 defenses against Barkley, Eubank Sr twice (avenged defeat pretty much), McClellan and an unbeaten Wharton and so on.

    Heck, Benn was Commonwealth champion within 15 months and Jr has yet to win that!

    Look what the Dark Destroyer did to Doug DeWitt after three years as a pro. The same DeWitt who gave a supposed peak Tommy Hearns all he could handle (every round close/competitive and Tommy cut up). Benn beat DeWitt up so bad from the opening bell it was hard to watch, in his home town, when DeWitt was in career best form. Beating Spike O'Sullivan kinda doesn't compare.

    He knocked out Robbie Sims for the first time in his career in a NON-title fight. He was the legend of ITV boxing. Jr can't even get on UK TV for goodness sake.
     
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  11. Bulldog24

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    As for G. Rocchigiani, the guy was clearly robbed against Maske twice and Michalczewski (beat him up and knocked him out) - these are Lineal 20ish fight reigning LHW Champs - as well as beating Malinga and Nunn over 12 rounds each.

    Please tell me what Chris Eubank Jr has done to be in that bracket to even be in with a shot against Rocchi. He has to prove himself and time is running out fast!

    He also blew out Mustafa Hamsho with an awesome timed left hand, a far more proven fighter Hamsho than Eubank Jr!
     
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  12. Bulldog24

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    And I struggle to see the shame in a kid just turned 25 weeks before (Mike Watson) being out classed by a Mike McCallum at his best, with McCallum being about as good as anyone who has ever done it and this young prospect trying to shake off 11 months of ring rust against the guy!

    Watson did fantastic.

    McCallum himself said he was never going to give him a rematch.
     
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    Completely random and out the blue. The hell is wrong with you
     
  14. mark ant

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    :p
     
  15. mark ant

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    That was not a peak Hearns, Hearns out-boxed Leonard and Benitez at the smaller weights, Ray just caught him, Benn beating DeWitt doesn`t trump Hearns win over Benitez.