Roy Jones Jr and weight classes

Great reply mate!

Roy's rapid decline was after the weight loss. It's a sore subject on here. People think that Roy exaggerated the loss, others say it was an excuse, but the fact is, he was never the same fighter after he'd come back down. I think if he'd have stayed at heavy in 2003/2004 he still would have been the great fighter that he was. I think the muscle he took off in a short period of time greatly affected him. In my opinion, fighters such as Glen Johnson could never have beaten him pre Ruiz.

I agree with you about Ruiz. But Roy never tried to get a legacy by just fighting Ruiz. History will tell us that Roy just had the one fight at Heavy against a mediocre fighter, but as I said in my previous post, it was never Roy's intention to just go up for Ruiz, so I think you're being hard on him. He definitely would have fought Evander, his dream fight was against Tyson, and I think he was willing to fight Lennox.

Regards, Loudon.

 

Lennox, Vitali, or Wlad would have knocked Jones out with a Jab. Anyone acting like he would have made it past 2 or 3 rounds with any of those fighters is an idiot. Jones has NO CHIN. None.

There is a reason he handpicked John Ruiz folks.

 

Rico, go back and read some of the posts in this delusional thread. Several of these nuthuggers are trying to paint Ruiz as some kind of power punching animal.:rofl:roflatsch

 

The very Fact that Jones picked him for a fight tells us how awful Ruiz really was. Byrd had a belt and was much closer to Jones in size but he opted for Ruiz instead. Byrd actually had skills though. Speaks volumes and shows what a cherrypicker Jones was.

 

Exactly, much like the Fact that Jones passed up Vitali who was his Mandatory after Ruiz (and when did Jones EVER pass up a Mandatory?) tells us that he was well aware he was going to get his Glass Jaw shattered at HW if he fought ANYBODY with a pulse. Ruiz was awful.

It is hilarious, however, that Jones purposefully ran from HW to avoid having his Glass Jaw Shattered and instead got knocked spark out by Average Antonio and Feather Fisted Glen Johnson.:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

I love this forum! Ha!

Roy had a verbal agreement to fight Holy, before Holy's final fight with Ruiz. Read the above posts. It's not my opinion, it's factual information. Ruiz wasn't handpicked.

Roy had no chin whatsoever and he was fighting at 175. Then he had an idea.

He thought to himself, i've no chin at all, my jaw is made from glass. hang on a minute! I'll go up and fight a 16 stone plus heavy who's knocked Evander down. Ha!

 

Average Antonio? 2 months ago Johnson and Tarver were a step up in competition, and that's why they beat Roy.

Hillarious!

 

Did that fight happen? Did this supposed fight with Tyson happen? Did the fight with Lewis happen? No, they were all just a lot of big talk coming from the sport's biggest talker. Jones is a Glass Jawed Fraud, he never had any intention of fighting anybody who could potentially Shatter his Glass and that is readily apparent when you compare the fights he talked about making to the fights that actually happened. He did, however, dupe fanboys like you and that is absolutely hilarious. Also, even if he did actually harbor serious intentions of fighting Holyfield it says nothing about his courage or willing to challenge himself because Holyfield was more shot than JFK at that point.

If Jones was serious about proving himself at HW he would have opted to fight the man, who at that time was Lennox Lewis. He wanted no part of that. The whole thing was classic Glass Jaw Roy, he picked the worst belt holder in the division, one who by the way could not punch his way out of a wet paper sack, and once he had his trinket belt he ran away from Vitali who, while not having the reputation he has today, was clearly a capable HW.

But, carry on with your "coulda, woulda, shoulda", in hindsight it is all you Glass Jaw Jones nuthuggers have left.:hi:

 

They were clearly better than the bums he was fighting, it doesn't make them World Class, idiot.

 

Haha! You should be on stage!

Did he have intentions of fighting Evander? Yes before Ruiz beat him. Then he fought Ruiz.

Yeah you're right, he wanted no part of Lennox, APART from approaching him for a fight late 2003.

He picked the worst belt holder who couldn't punch, who outweighed him by over 2 stone, who was that feather fisted he dropped Evander, who's got a glass jaw right? Ha!

You don't think a fighter who started at 154, is challenging himself moving up to heavyweight at 34? Ha!

 

Two months ago, Tarver was a step up in competition and that's why he beat Roy. Apparently it had nothing to do with his weight loss, it was due to the fect that Tarver was a better fighter than Roy. Two months down the line, and now Antonio is average! Ha! So which is it you fool?

Try and get yourself on tv, you're an entertainer!

 

How ****ing dense are you? Your "evidence" for Roy's intentions always ends up at "he said he wanted it" or "he approached (insert legitimate fighter here)" and that is nothing but pure fantasy. He never, EVER intended on fighting any of these guys. That is why the fights did not come off. He priced himself out of a potential fight with shot Tyson and was nothing but hot air and ridiculous demands on all the rest of them. Jones is a Glass Jawed Fraud of the highest order and he proved that by consistently ducking his best contemporaries in favor of worthless Mandatories against no-hopers.

His career says it all. Instead of you nuthuggers having fond memories of when he Dominated the Boxing landscape you have a Glass Jawed Joke who NEVER Dominated a single division he fought in, never beat a lineal, unified, or undisputed Champion in his entire career, and is now getting his Chin Shattered constantly. You can talk all you want about his mythical titles like "P4P" or "Fighter of the Decade" but in terms of legitimate, career defining moments that actually happened in a Boxing ring you have the Hopkins, Toney, and Ruiz fights. All three were complete stinkers and the latter was against one of the biggest Jokes in HW history who has made a career off of being Dominated by blown-up MWs and CWs.

 

Haha! You sir are a legend!

He never had any intentions of fighting any of them?

Apart from having a verbal agreement with Evander in 2001 to fight in 2002, until Ruiz beat him.

He approached Lewis for a fight, but he didn't really mean it right? Ha! You've read Zod's links.

His dream fight was against Tyson. Mike said he was going to bad mouth him to stir up interest, and they wanted to have two fights. King and a dispute with Showtime blocked the fight from taking place.

Roy kept his Ruiz weight on for a while before he lost it, in the hope of fighting Tyson. He didn't price himself out of the fight at all.

He never dominated a division he fought in?

Apart from beating the best fighter at 168 and Unifying the 175 division apart from DM who wouldn't go to the States?

He never beat a lineal Champion? Ha! oh no! The Lineal Champions are always the best fighters in the division I forgot.

Toney, Hopkins, and Ruiz were all stinkers? In your opinion!

If Ruiz was so garbage, why did many people predict he'd beat Roy?

Must try harder!

 

There was a reason Roy fought Ruiz instead of Lewis or Klitschko, or even guys like Brewster.

 

Man Roy must have pumped your wife.

Jones is IMO the best ever to lace them up, in his prime no one in history could touch him, get da **** outa here with all this shizer

Skills wise even Mayweather doesent even come close, hey home come Floyd doesn't fight @ LH? I mean thats only 40 pounds north of 135?

Jones went from 154 to Heavyweight,(204 come fightnight) he was a freak with supernatural skills.


All this drivel about Tarver and Johnson...jeez to put it into REAL context John 'Louise' would KO them both.
It's all about prime baby and Roys prime was up to the Ruiz fight, anyone who says other wise is a liar.
Hagler would have got ko'ed a LH methinks. anyone who's shot can get KO'd that's boxing.




As for the rest of your posts?....Tub of arse!