Roy Jones vs. Jack Johnson

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Roy Jones vs. Jack Johnson Who would have won

  1. Johnson via stoppage

    13 vote(s)
    40.6%

  2. Johnson on points

    3 vote(s)
    9.4%

  3. Jones via stoppage

    8 vote(s)
    25.0%

  4. Jones on points

    6 vote(s)
    18.8%

  5. Too close to call SD or Draw.

    2 vote(s)
    6.3%
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  1. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    I can see Johnson mauling, wrestling and infighting Jones to a later win after being troubled early on.

    Jones speed and timing would definitely through Jack off at first, though. Jack is just the stronger, more durable fighter. Both are intelligent with their abilities.

    Quite an interesting match up actually.
     
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  2. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Also, does Jones get his 6x Testosterone boost for this match up?
     
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  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Roy makes Jack quit.

    Frustration and embarrassment.
     
    cuchulain, May 17, 2019
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  4. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I rate both eras and think there is a lot to discuss.

    Judging polls most think Johnson can only win via stoppage. Jones was easily the better boxer.
     
    Mendoza, May 17, 2019
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  5. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    :qmeparto::qmeparto::qmeparto::qmeparto::qmeparto:
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta, May 17, 2019
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  6. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I doubt many think he can win only by stoppage, it's just if he outboxes him he'll stop him.


    I don't mind others discussing it, but it doesn't really interest me.
     
    BitPlayerVesti, May 17, 2019
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  7. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So you make a thread to bury the hatchet in case he's ill, but then make a thread that could possible instigate strife and contention? That's an odd way to bury the hatchet.
     
    KuRuPT, May 17, 2019
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  8. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Johnson wins this fight imo. He would get outboxed and perplexed early on by Jones' speed and skill. Eventually though, he'd realize he needs to maul and rough up Jones and gets aggressive. He would slowly start to wear Jones down with his infighting, mauling, wrestling tactics till Jones tires some and then goes for the kill. Johnson didn't do it all the time, but when he wanted to get aggressive, he was cat like and very quick and aggressive. He'd realize he needs to be that way very early on with Jones.
     
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  9. McGrain

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    I lean towards Jones under the rules described. What makes me uncertain is Johnson trying to close Jones in the late rounds. He's smart enough that he wouldn't be DQ'd, I think, but he'd struggle awfully with these rules, of which he had no knowledge or experience. I still think he'd be a terrible menace as Jones' legs begin to betray him.

    Johnson by KO under 1908 rules of course.
     
    McGrain, May 17, 2019
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  10. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    The thread parameters favored neither man. The ring size was standard, which would help Johnson. The rounds were 15, which might help Johnson, not 12. And the ref style was from the 1940-1960, with benefited neither man as they let them fight back then, but did not allow say hitting and holding which Johnson was skilled at.

    20 x 20 ring
    15 rounds
    1940-1960's style referring.
    10 point must system.
    No weight class. Jones can pick his best weight, same with Johnson.

    Jones never had his legs betray him, and wasn't easy to hit. Outside having a punch that could equal Johnson's, and being the better boxer, he was a smart fighter. If Jones was ever hit cleanly by an uppercut, or mauled ( even by Ruiz ), I didn't see that fight.
     
    Mendoza, May 17, 2019
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  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I completely disagree for reasons stated.
     
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  12. Rainer

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    Jones v Harold Johnson would be of interest to me.
     
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  13. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I haven't been here in a while. Who's (possibly) ill?
     
    Sting like a bean, May 17, 2019
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  14. Gudetama

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    I'm a big fan of rules like these in fantasy bouts (being based on an era at a midway point between the two fighters' primes).
    Anyway, I'll take Johnson by KO in the mid-rounds.
     
    Gudetama, May 17, 2019
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  15. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    That's what I was trying to do.

    If I wanted to favor Johnson I'd make it 20 rounds, make the ring smaller, and use 1910 like rules.

    If I wanted to favor Jones, I'd make it 12 rounds, use modern gloves ( limiting the chance of a stoppage )make the ring larger, and use 1990 like rules.
     
    Mendoza, May 18, 2019
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