Roy Jones Vs Michael The Jinx Spinks

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by cobra1, Nov 30, 2010.

  1. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2007
    Messages:
    21,677
    Likes Received:
    52
    this is totally reasonable as well. i'm shitfaced so forgive the typos but jones ability and skills h2h are among the best ever. there are 3 lhw's i'd bet on against him...spinks happens to be one of them

    just as likely though, jones throws that lead right down the pipe time and time again, embarassing spinks who's awkward, herky jerky fighting is useless when jones stays at distance

    btw: spinks' power is VERY overrated. good but nowhere NEAR foster
     
  2. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2007
    Messages:
    38,683
    Likes Received:
    13,492
    Good points.

    BTW, I believe Jones one-shot power doesn't get enough press either.
     
  3. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2007
    Messages:
    21,677
    Likes Received:
    52
    his power was brilliant 160-175. his potshots still knocked out top contenders
     
  4. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2005
    Messages:
    13,054
    Likes Received:
    2,529
    We are talking about Jones of the 2nd half of the 1990s. He did them a lot. Add to that one-two that was as quick as other fighters' single punch, and double-triple hooks (including switching from head to body and vice versa).

    Pure punching power and speed+precision are two different things. He didn't have that much raw punching power at 175lbs.

    What happened more often, that Jones after getting tagged became timid, or that Jones' opponents after tasting his speed became reluctant and started throwing 1.5-2 times less punches that they did against any other opponent?
     
  5. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2009
    Messages:
    19,229
    Likes Received:
    259
    See, I can revognize Jones talent and ability. But we never seen him against a fighter of his class at his best. Many fighters look awesome before they step up. And when they do, they don´t anymore as much. It´s just not proven that he would look as good as he did against real top class fighters.
     
  6. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2005
    Messages:
    13,054
    Likes Received:
    2,529
    We've never seen Spinks or Foster against any ATG lhw.
     
  7. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2009
    Messages:
    19,229
    Likes Received:
    259
    True but against borderline guys like Qawi (for Spinks) and of course both stepped up to hw to challenge atgs. Jones stepped up to challange John Ruiz. Spinks shoewd he could hang in with an atg and a bigger one than himself. Foster didn´t really though but I don´t rank him as high as many do, still higher than Jones though (at lhw).
     
  8. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2005
    Messages:
    13,054
    Likes Received:
    2,529
    Bordeline atg? For beating Muhammad twice? Sorry, but that's too little an accomplishment to call someone even borderline great. Qawi's resume at 175lbs is just not deep enough for that.
     
  9. Ezzard

    Ezzard Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2005
    Messages:
    2,070
    Likes Received:
    19
    Not at 175 where this fight would take place. Qawi cemented Spinks' greatness.
     
  10. Ezzard

    Ezzard Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2005
    Messages:
    2,070
    Likes Received:
    19
    yep!
     
  11. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2008
    Messages:
    5,581
    Likes Received:
    85
    And yet Qawi's clearly better than anyone Jones ever beat at 175, unless we're projecting McCallum's Junior Middleweight greatness to 175.
     
  12. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2005
    Messages:
    13,054
    Likes Received:
    2,529
    Virgil Hill was better than Qawi.
     
  13. Foreman Hook

    Foreman Hook ☆☆☆ G$ora ☆☆☆ Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2010
    Messages:
    8,234
    Likes Received:
    16
    Qawi was a H2H BEAST at 175-190lbs. :deal:deal
     
  14. Foreman Hook

    Foreman Hook ☆☆☆ G$ora ☆☆☆ Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2010
    Messages:
    8,234
    Likes Received:
    16
    Did not even 1 of you clever guys detect even a little, tiny hint of my sarcasm here??? :rofl:rofl:patsch

    RJJ wins - BUT only by Split-Decision IMO And 45% of teh time he loses SD.
     
  15. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2008
    Messages:
    5,581
    Likes Received:
    85
    I actually agree with you that Qawi gets a little overrated, but no, Virgil Hill is in now way better than Qawi.