"Running and Potshotting" vs. "Ring Generalship and Distance Control"

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I think this is a really interesting bone of contrition.

    On the one hand, Cotto adopted a plan that all but guaranteed his defeat but would maximise his chances of finishing - that's questionable, at best.

    On the other hand, nobody understands better the ebb and flow of fights better than fighters. He obviously agreed with you that standing toe-to-toe would result in his KO, and that he was better of trying to keep out of danger...the problem is, standing toe-to-toe is his best chacne of victory at this point.

    There's really no right or wrong if you haven't felt those punches, though as fans we're always going to want our men to fight for victory. Myself, I'm leaning toward giving Cotto a pass now we're a few months down the line.
     
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  2. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It depends who is making the classification and how popular the fighter is. There's no universal criteria here. For instance, if you're a fan of someone like Margarito, anyone who boxes and moves is a "runner", because you need to defend the fact that your hero the definitive plodder of his generation.

    Sometimes, you even see people who don't mind someone like Dirrell, but then they call him a "runner" because they prefer Carl Froch. People are often inconsistent in their classification.

    I figure someone is running if they are clearly avoiding action and not landing on their opponent. Someone who is outlanding his opponent while controlling the pace of the fight is a true ring general.
     
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  3. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Great post. End thread.
     
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  4. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's a fact and a sad one.
     
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  5. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    until round 7.


    Then he commenced to doing his best Lance Armstrong impression.
     
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  6. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's running and potshotting when a fighter I don't like does it.

    Ring generalship and distance control if I like the fighter.
     
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  7. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    watch Mayweather's fights with castillo, Marquez, baldomir...and then the mid-distance mastery of kalambay vs McCallum, Graham, Collins etc and you shall be illuminated.;)
     
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  8. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Spinks vs Mayorga = running.
     
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  9. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Going in hard on Cotto.

    Seems Cotto's latest fights he has been on his bicycle. Problem is that he trains to plant and kill the body. So he always runs out of gas on his bicycle.
     
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  10. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And Clottey proceeded to do nothing to take a fight he would've won had he just DONE something.
     
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  11. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Something like what?

    Outland Cotto for 8 out of 12 Rounds???
     
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  12. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mayorga was on his butt like stink on poo!
     
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  13. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good point, people naturally have style preferences and this will subjectify the process.
     
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