Russian Doping Scandal: 99% affected including boxing

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  1. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Why dont you use that little brain of yours and speak sense? There is NO such thing as a doping culture, it is absolutely pathetic to call this a Russian problem, when it is clearly an international problem. Doping cannot be removed from sports, all athletes from all over the world were roided to the gills during the cold war since there was absolutely NO drug testing or drug testing was in its infant stage. The claim that Russia is a perverse doping nation has its origins in the cold war, which is ridiculous since athletes from the west were doped to the gills as well. It was a political attack on the USSR, the USSR were the bad guys according to the West after all, so they pointed the finger at Russia. This drug accusation also coincides with the annexation of Crimea by Russia, there is politics involved here as well, you either have to be blind or extremely re****ed to not see this. Russian track and field is never going to be banned from the Olympics, too much money involved, and also highly hypocritical since Russia is not the only one with doped up athletes. People on here are speaking truth, Russia is NOT the only country with doped up athletes, it is simply the one that got caught thanks to a ****ed off banned Russian track star. Athletic powerhouses such as Russia, China and the United States will have dirty athletes.
     
  2. mirkofilipovic

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    Why are you bringing Ukraine in to this as well, are you that much of a spastic, mental midget that you have to insult these countries? Funny how you never act suspect at the fact that Russia is not the leader in overall medals, so these genetically modified super Roided to the gills Russian athletes cannot compete with the United States or China? Is Russia the only country where corruption runs rampant?There is more law and order in Russia than Cuba, Africa and Jamaica. Also I guess Michael Phelps can out compete the other roided out elite athletes from the rest of the world without steroids right? Do you believe in the tooth fairy and Cinderalla as well?
     
  3. juice20

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    Your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired. You are also naive.
     
  4. Kissan

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    I so hope that Pov is not affected
     
  5. juice20

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    I guess stating the former Soviet Union was long SUSPECTED of widespread state controlled doping, especially during the cold war era is so wrong even though it was a widely held SUSPICION. Because we have a poster with inside info that they only recommended and never, unequivocally, did not engage in such a program. Whether they did or did not is irrelevant when you say it was suspected, which is a fact. The Russian Federations violations, amounted to 12 percent of all violations internationally, a huge number globally, and of the 240 some odd violations in 2013, a large and broad coverage of numerous sports were involved. It is foolish to assume a tin foil hat conspiracy when faced with those numbers, and history has proven these programs have and likely still do exist in other nations. I suppose thinking that the allegations are possibly quite true is foolish because illuminati, conspiracy theories, nostradamus or something......
     
  6. Brighton bomber

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    Well he wanted RUSADA to do the testing for his fight with Wlad, so it's very likely that he uses them for his fights in Russia.
     
  7. Robney

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    The whole issue during the cold war was that the severely state controlled communist countries were all cheating like madmen with knowledge and even help from the goverment.
    But, the white hats like the US weren't much better, with them knowing and covering up widespread dope use from their own athletes.

    "The dirtiest race in history", formely known as "The fastest race in history" was the thing that opened many peoples eyes on what really was happenening in the world.

    It's sad that it's still happening today, and I fear it will still happen long after I'm buried.
     
  8. juice20

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    That 100m final ended with Ben Johnson becoming a villain and poster boy for drug cheats, while every other man in that race tested positive during their careers and recieve zero criticism. Hellen Keller syndrome. Only Smith never failed a drug test out of that lot. As close to a level playing field as you can get, as almost every single elite sprinter dopes.
     
  9. mirkofilipovic

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    I was replying with my cell phone, sorry for any confusion. It is a pain in the glutes to type with my cell phone. The naive person is one that thinks Russia can come in third place on the medal table behind China and the United States, and only assume Russia is the doper. :deal
     
  10. mirkofilipovic

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    :deal How about swimmers?
     
  11. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    According to a recent report, Anabolic-androgenic Steroid Use in the Nordic Countries leads the world.
    Sweden has the highest prevalence of AAS use: 4.4%, followed by Norway: 2.4%, Finland: 0.8%, Iceland: 0.7%, and Denmark: 0.5%.

    Now, A report by an independent committee of the World Anti-Doping Agency accuses Russia of effectively having a state-sponsored dope program for its athletes. The report provides evidence confirming involvement in such activities by everyone from coaches, trainers, and athletes to state-laboratory personnel, and effectively suggests the 2012 Olympics were tainted.
    The blowback from the report is already considerable. Russia’s alleged culture of doping is so pervasive it’s yielding comparisons to “notorious drug regimes like the state-run doping system of East Germany.” One member of the report’s commission is recommending that Russia be barred from international track and field events as well as be kept from competition in the 2016 Olympics. Criminal proceedings may follow suit.

    Nevertheless, just last week Kenya’s failure to enact anti-doping mechanisms led to some worry the country may be kept out of the Olympics. Also, according to data released by WADA in June, the top 12 countries garnering doping violations in recent years include France (No. 3), Belgium (No. 5), Italy (No. 6), Spain (No. 7), and the United States (No. 11). Russia ranked first on the list by several laps.
     
  12. mirkofilipovic

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    The United States has more EXPOSED dopers than the rest of the Western Hemisphere in total, I would not be talking :yep Also the Nordic countries have more STRINGENT drug testing than the United States :thumbsup But it does not matter anyways, athletes anywhere are doping regardless. You seem to be losing your mind with all these pathetic spontaneous ramblings :yep
     
  13. mirkofilipovic

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    The TOTAL number of dopers that were EXPOSED in the United States FAR exceed that of the Western Hemisphere. Do you know what TOTAL means and what percentage means? I am talking about ALL time total doping cases :deal, furthermore you still need to prove to me HOW AMERICANS are not doping themselves. Nordic countries would be Denmark, Sweden, Finland and Iceland. Yes the United States for having such a large population, DO NOT PERFORM more drug testing than many various smaller European countries. The more drug tests you perform, the greater the chances you catch more offenders. Where is Britain, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland, Finland, Germany on the WADA report? Do you have any reading comprehension? :yep
     
  14. Brighton bomber

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    Russia do seem to be getting all the attention, WADA is also looking to get Kenya suspended from international competitions which is why Kenya today announced they will set up a new anti-doping agency.

    As mentioned before Russia is just the tip of the iceberg, and simply the worst case of a much more widespread problem.

    Will be interesting to see if Russia are provisionally banned tonight, it will definitely send the right message to other nations who currently are not following the guidelines set by WADA.
     
  15. mirkofilipovic

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    :deal