Salido-Lomachenko Was A Robbery On Many Levels

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  1. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    You should have gotten your money back because a featherweight sure as hell isn't knocking out a super featherweight.
     
  2. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not what I am doing. What I am saying is if they were able to see it...... there is no point on arguing with someone who can't. You can lead the horse to the water, but you can't make him drink

    And I will clarify. I wasn't referring to Jones. But he can be bias sometimes when there is an black american in the ring. Needless to say, Roy Jones paid his due and he has the right to say whatever he wants.
     
  3. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The fact he was stupid enough to try this and the fact that he ended up fighting with a guy 2 weight divisions heavier who used continuous low blows and his head with impunity are two very different arguments. He was stupid to take this fight. I am not arguing that
     
  4. GeoffJ

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    I think if a fight is contracted at a weight and one boxer doesn't make weight then the fight should be OFF! I'm tired of it and I won't watch any more fights that fit that criteria. The low blows just added insult to injury. Low blows is not the same thing as holding BTW.
    I can't help but wonder how much of the rule breaking was deliberate by Salido to avoid being on the wrong side of history. I want the hour back I spent watching it.
     
  5. Collie

    Collie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Didn't think it needed explaining but the fact that you say judges should give close rounds to Loma because its only his 2nd pro fight, because Salido was fouling etc, is an awful idea. If there's a close round in Mayweather-Maidana, why not give it to Maidana, hes the underdog and he earned his shot, and he might not win another. Scoring works on a round by round basis, you can't factor in other factors.

    You fail to read. I said the low blows etc contributed to it. But Loma being gun-shy, tentative and clinching, esp in the first half of the fight was more of a factor. If he had thrown meaningful punches from the start or at least a lot earlier than the last round, he probably would have gotten Salido out of there. Instead he focused on getting the distance and pacing himself when he should have been focusing on making sure it didn't go the distance when he had the talent to do so.

    I'm not denying he has talent, I'm saying he made the mistake of not using or showing it enough last night.
     
  6. strongarm

    strongarm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, Mayweather was not facing a welter. That is why they had the weight stipulation that Mayweather refused to follow
     
  7. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    STFU already you whiny little ****. You sound like you lost your hut betting on Loma!
     
  8. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't know about the film stuff. I think if the reffing is fair he wins as Salido would lose at least 2 points during the fight, or be DQ'ed.

    Even so, if Coles had done his job and stopped the holding by Salido in 11 & 12, Loma stops him.

    This was great experience for the kids 2nd fight. He learned a ton about the pro game from a tough and dirty fighter. He needs a couple of fights to work on sitting down on his punches, then he'll be fine.
     
  9. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    He lost, no robbery
     
  10. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To me it wasn't anything close to a robbery. I think the fight was a bad choice for the Loma camp. It was a poor decision on many different levels.....

    For starters it was a bad styles match up for their guy.......From a common sense point of view the gap in experience at this level are worlds apart.....this fight on Paper looked ridiculous and not in a good way. But knowing just how good this kid is and not to take the time to help him develop his craft for this level of competition was just plain wrong.

    It was a bad gamble.....one that did not pay off. There's some trouble with amateur fighters having issues shedding their AM habits when they turn pro.....especially the ones with a lot of fights at the AM level. Loma just needs to be moved along gradually, not fed to the wolves.
     
  11. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Fighting a 10 loss pro ain't the same as fighting a 17 year old with headgear on.
     
  12. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yikes. I do think it was garbage for Salido to duck the weight. But he won the fight. The judges have to score what happens in the ring, plain and simple. No cozy feelings toward one guy or another because of the boosheet outside the ring. The ow blows were condemnable, however. The ref **** the bed.

    I would not have been critical had Loma decided not to go thru with the fight, given the weight thing. Credit to him for seeing it thru. Credit to him for having the belief and ambition to take on a rugged, grizzled, and (and ultimately too) savvy vet like Salido. Hopefully something like this lends itself to showing folks that having, or not having, an "L" on one's record isn't the way to gauge a fighter's success.

    All that said, Salido won that fight, and fairly handily as I saw it.
     
  13. YearZero

    YearZero Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I always wondered I mean, listen as a judge I would score headshots more than bodyshots, and loma definitely landed significantly more headshots than Salido did.

    Many judges also have a preference for headshots over bodyshots, right or wrong, in that light I think you can still make a case for loma winning.

    He also landed the far cleaner shots, if only Loma had came out blasting in the 2nd round like he was destroying Salido in the 11th and 12th. Possibly would've stopped Salido's dirty ass in his tracks.
     
  14. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Didn't Salido lose his title? Seems like he robbed himself. I think at equal bodyweight and a referee who is not incompetent Laurence Cole, Lomachenko would beat Salido. The Ukrainian nearly beat Salido in spite of all the advantages Salido had in the fight. Due to the weight issue, Lomachenko deserves an immediate rematch although he may not want one since Salido is no longer champion.
     
  15. Undisputed

    Undisputed Cant G no other way Full Member

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    Where was the outcry when mayweather failed to make weight against Marquez.Where was the outcry when broner failed to make weight against Escobedo?