Save your money on these biographies

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by klompton, Apr 11, 2011.


  1. kopejh

    kopejh Guest

    Klompton thanks for the recommendation :clap: bought it and finished it in two hours
     
  2. FistsforK

    FistsforK Stan the Young Man Full Member

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  3. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    You got me. Everyone, I am Klompton. PetethePrince is just my alt account to screw around on. Thanks for boosting my credibility around here. :lol:

    And by the way, it was the same day. I don't care, though.
     
  4. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    I think there could be a few in the coming future.
     
  5. FistsforK

    FistsforK Stan the Young Man Full Member

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    Now, I am befuddled. I don't care either, but I started on my own thread on the 12th of April. Klomp's thread opened on the 11th. How's that the same day?:huh
     
  6. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    I think we should all write a book for klompton. :lol:
     
  7. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Klompton, your rep as a very well researched, miserable ***** is well known and well earned on multiple boards, both the ones you have been kicked off of and the ones that tolerate your brand of sniper frustration....That being said I've always gotten a kick out of you , both for your knowledge and your behavior .. Your Greb book, which I have been hearing about since the 1990's , is taking longer to write than the bible. Maybe you should stop making excuses, have some balls and get it out so it will sell the five hundred copies it's going to sell and you can get on with your life.
     
  8. FistsforK

    FistsforK Stan the Young Man Full Member

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    :hammertime
     
  9. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    The only board Ive ever been kicked off of was CBZ which I consider a badge of honor as that board is now such a joke due to all of the people being banned that it can literally go days without a hit.

    And I certainly wasnt working on my book in the 1990s.

    But, I find your attitude funny, you talk about sniping, and being a well researched ***** and yet you start a forum post to hail the new Jerrry Quarry biography "in case klompton wakes up in a bad mood" and then admit youve neither read the book, nor even purchased it... Id rather be a well researched ***** and than just a *****. And for the record, before you ever made that post I posted on here that in fact I bought the Quarry book and have high hopes for it. Upon reading some of it I think its well done so far and am enjoying it.


    But, once again, when you actually buy the Ketchel book, the Clabby booik, and the Quarry book, and you actually read them. Feel free to post your impressions. Until then you really dont know what you are talking about.
     
  10. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Anyone criticizing Klompton for the length of time he's dedicating to his book clearly is uneducated and/or just being a dick.

    You don't publish something unless you know it's ready. And with something like this where there's limited information in print already, the research can take crazy time due to contradictory accounts.

    Klompton, are you actually trying to get to the bottom of instances where the record is blurry, or are you simply going to acknowledge that a debate exists and move on with the book?
     
  11. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    I think in most cases Ive been able to shed a clear light on the ocassions that have been blurred by time but in those cases where there is still some question I have simply stated both sides of the case and allowed the reader to draw his own conclusion. I certainly havent stated ONLY Greb's side. For instance the second Tommy Gibbons fight where Gibbons dominated Greb and a Greb who was arguably in his prime. There were several excuses (some legitimate and some grasping) that the Greb side presented as to why Gibbons held an advantage over him. In such cases I quoted Greb directly so the man himself could give his side as he had done the day of the fight. Here is my answer to that and you can tell me if a Greb nuthugger would write something like this:

    "All of the excuses aside, and there were many from Greb and his supporters, Gibbons was simply the better man and performed brilliantly in what may very well have been the greatest performance of his career. In trying to discredit Gibbon’s victory Greb drew the ire of a large swath of Pittsburgh’s boxing fans."


    So anyone who thinks my book is going to be a slanted piece of hero worship is wrong. Greb doesnt need me to paint him in glory. He did that for himself. He made missteps along the way and Ive printed those missteps. Its what makes him more human, more three dimensional, and easier to relate to. As opposed to the indestructible god that some would believe he was. He was a human being which is what makes his accomplishments all the more impressive.
     
  12. FistsforK

    FistsforK Stan the Young Man Full Member

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    :cheers

    The time dedicated to the writing a book? If that's all it takes for non-criticism then, that's equally uneducated, and less than just being a dick. How does anyone know if their book is ready for everyone's taste and enjoyment? Stanley Ketchel was a boxer years before Greb. Wouldn't it, or shouldn't it take less time to research and write about Greb? Not unless you have limited brain cell dynamic.

    Example: Suppose an equal amount of it all, to his time and research are the same? Is one supposed to be believed and not the other person when there is less than equal information on the subject at hand? Klompton can't refute what the authors have written, if he has less than as much information on who they have written about. For this reason, alone, is one of the reasons he's trying to tank the books.

    Kompton would refute anything anyone has to say about someone he doesn't like. Just like others will do for him. If somone goes into a tizzy about why his Greb stuff is wrong, and says no one should buy the book, then that person has a vendetta to begin with. I would venture to say that the person having a hissy fit about it, just plain doesn't like the author's subject to begin with, or the author. Eventhough Klompton says he has nothing against one of the subjects.

    He's a liar. And, a feckless fathead. I'm a newbie, but I can tell when someone has a not so subtle impasse that he refuses to acknowledge. He leaped at the chance to nix the books and the authors. Like I said, he's hateful, vindictive, a poor sport, and a near discredit to this forum, as far as his attitude. And what he says should be taken with a grain of **** salt. :****
    Take up for him all you want. Only, in the future, you'd better not write anything. He more than likely was a ***** before he even started posting anything, anywhere. Otherwise, he wouldn't open a thread tearing down work that someone else has probably struggled through more than he has with his proof copy. Proof copy? In the literary world, galley, is the word for it, Klumpy brain. I have not read the Clabby book yet, but in spite of the the things he correctly cites in the Ketchel book, they are not enough to discourage purchasing it. .....Unless, of course, you have a dislike or disbelief of Stanley Ketchel's worth, too.

    This is getting no where, I agree. But, it should be your choice, not Klompy's or any Kompaholics' choice. That said, peace out.:cheers
     
  13. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    Considering Greb's ginormous record and period of time active, of ****ing course it won't take the same time. smh.
     
  14. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    Wait, so Im a liar? What exactly have I lied about in regards to the ketchel book? Not one person. Not even the author (which you supposedly arent but have taken up his cause with no word from him, in the exact same manner and style in which he writes) has been able to refute ONE of my criticisms about this book. Since youve read it point out what exactly Ive said that has been wrong, much less a lie.

    You say that since Greb fought more recently than Ketchel it should take me less time to write my book than it took you to write yours. Ok, lets go with that even though thats an ignorant comparison. Why did you publish your book so quickly with so many mistakes? Did you ever think that you could reverse that argument say maybe you should still be working on your book as you now admit when you say that a book which is only out for three months needs revision. Nevermind the fact that Greb fought FIVE TIMES as many bouts as Ketchel and in an era where its vital that as many sources as possible be covered. By that logic it should take me at least FIVE TIMES as long to finish my book just based on his career. Then take into account that Greb LIVED EIGHT YEARS LONGER than Ketchel. Also take into account that the author spends less than four pages on Ketchels youth and skips almost entirely three years of his career. So taking all that into account one might see how I could take longer in writing my book. But if you like to read poorly researched, poorly written, rushed biographies then I have just the book for you: Ketchel: A life of Triumph and Prophecy...
     
  15. Garrus

    Garrus Big Boss 1935-2014 Full Member

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    That book your writing sounds like it'll be ****ing awesome man.