You all are a bunch of dillusional assholes. You said margarito was blocking punches rounds 1-5. I didnt see that. I seen punches getting right through his pathetic guard and I seen him geti
Williams won there was no robery 7 rounds to 5 Margo needed the 12th for a draw but he was out of gas and couldnt pull it out.
If his punches were effective williams would of not been the stronger fighter in round 12 and he would of got a knockdown at least. Paul beat margaritos ass. he tagged him head and body and Margarito only partially blocked some of the shots he got tagged every time he opened up to punch most of the time twice. So he got beat to the punch all fight...all fight....**** this, this aint even a debate. Its who is left in the welter mix. Margarito cannot box. He just threw wild haymakers. That dont win a fight and especially when you are getting punched all round every round.
whats your point? is doesnt matter how hard or weak your shots are if the other is simply not throwing or landing alot. it took several for margo to hit williams with great regularity. therefore he lost alot if early rds. its sounds like your a biased margo fan but to each their own.
8-4 Williams, or 116-112 in conventional scoring. Margarito rounds = 7,8,10,11 on my card. If Margarito wanted to guarantee that he was getting credit for his harder shots, then he should've stayed in Williams chest and dug, like he did in those four rounds. For a man that wasn't hurt at all, he certainly seemed content letting himself be pittypat at an uncomfortable distance for his offense to work with a decrease in retalliation until the 6th round. That makes no sense to me. Walk this "weak punching" man down who's giving you distance and do it from the start. As if he had no energy to do so in the first half of the fight. Either Williams' punches had more of an effect than some were giving him credit for early on (because for some reason people UNANIMOUSLY gave him credit in the 12th???) or Margarito is an idiot for not giving his true effort to an early deficit.
you gave Margo the 12th??? he did nothing that round. Paul controlled the distance that round and won it easy.
Thankyou Morrissey. I feel the same way about the 12th round that you do. A couple of the previous rounds I scored for Margarito because I value hard punching and aggression more than I do just plain punches landed, could have just as easily gone to Williams without claiming Margarito was robbed from those rounds. Thats why I did'nt have a real problem with the two judges that scored 115-113 (although I disagreed) Margarito really expended alot of energy in that 11th round where he was visibly trying to take out Williams. Had Margarito eased up just a bit after that 11th round was already in the bag, he may have had enough juice to have fought a better 12th than he did. No doubt about it, the 12th turned out to be the differece maker, and the judges rightfully gave that 12th to Williams.
I dont know about you, but I value hard punching to the body, which Margarito landed quite frequently throughout the fight, and starting from the very first round. It's a pity that alot of judges dont pay enough attention to body shots.
I scored right with Merchant, but I do think that the HBO guys were underplaying what Margo was doing in the fight. It seemed like they made up their minds in round 1 that he was going to lose. He was administering a beating in the later rounds, and all I heard was how it didn't matter what he did, because Williams was still shooting the jab... even as Lederman was scoring rounds for Margo.. and STILL trashing him. The commentating was not good with the exception of Merchant, who seemed pretty unbiased. I don't think Margo won, but he wasn't blown out or outclassed by any stretch of the imagination. The fight competative.
Its become a ritual and habit for HBO to make up their minds about a fighter, or how a fight is going to unfold within the first minute of a fight. I kid you not....I'm not exaggerating. In the Gatti-Gomez fight, not 10 seconds had gone by in the 1st round, and Emmanuel Steward had already noted that Arturo Gatti did'nt look like a shot fighter! ....can they at least let 1st round end before they make a bonehead statement like that in judging from the first 10 seconds of a fight???:huh
I think Manny was still on a high after spotting and calling how crappy Castillo looked in the first seconds of that fight. Sometimes you can see something and sometimes you can't. Seriously, with Margo's history of taking the first round or 3 to measure his opponent, how could they make any claim about the fighter in the first round? I was just suprised at how he judged Margo to be slower than normal before he had really thrown much. I noted his defense was actually looking fairly good in those first rounds against everything but the jab.