Why are you even argueing with me if you're not making any excuse as to why Pavlik lost to Martinez then??? It's basically simple Pavlik is being honest when he said the drinking didn't affect his fights at all. If it did, he would have 4 losses instead of 2 in which that's a point blank the truth. It's also basically put that Pavlik don't want to make excuses but his ****** fans won't have none of it and saying Pavlik drinking is the reason why he lost to Martinez. atsch
#2 behind Pacman. And on May 7, everyone here saying Martinez should be # 1 will be reminded why Pacman is still THE #1 lb for lb fighter.
Lol The Real Hype Job Is Sergio! Dude Was Dead Tired In The 6th Round Against A Slow,Jabbing, No Power Having Smaller Man! Not To Mention Dzinziruk Couldn't Miss Sergio's Head lol Marvila Has No D Either! Which Is Why He Lost To Margarito/Williams! And He Would Have Lost The Williams Rematch (If Not For Is Hail Mary) For The Exact Same Reason! Thats Why He And Lou Will Never Sign For Rubber Match! Their Riding The Magic Hype Bus. Lol Mayweather Will Soundly Pick Him Apart Easy! And I Think Pack Stops Him At A Catch Weight, Maybe 152. Cause He's Gonna Get Tired, And He Fights With His Hands Below His Waist So Volume Punchers Are Always Gonna Bust His Ass! In The Words Of Teddy Atlas "You can Slip One But If The Guy Starts Putting Them Together The 2end And 3rd Are Gonna Get Through
rating the margo win over the dzinruk win is not a stretch. pacquiao was giving 17 pounds against margo on fight night. martinez was actually fighting someone coming up in weight. cotto when pac fought him was not drained. and this win is better than a martinez win over pavlik. yeah, stopping williams in 2 is quite impressive and if you compare their most recent wins, martinez had the edge but not as big cause pacquiao had dominated the 3 top welters of the past 3 years in cotto, clottey and margo. pac basically cleaned out the division minus floyd who don't want to fight. i could agree with martinez over floyd since floyd has not done **** other than dominating mosley but martinez has not done enough yet to surpass what pac has accomplished in recent years. it's easy to play down pac's accomplishments, but you can play down anyone's accomplishments if you really want to.
In the past 12 months Martinez has been the best fighter. He destroyd Pavlik, Williams and recently Dzinziruk. However Pac beat good fighters too. So Martinez should be ranked at #2.
Hatton -Coming of a Win Pac-undedog Cotto- coming of a win Pac-Undedog Margarito- Coming of a win De la Hoya - coming of a win Pac-underdog If you want to say well hatton lost to Mayweather a few fights before, or Cotto lost to Margarito a few fights before. The you can say the same, Williams was beaten by Quintana a few fights before, Pavlik was beaten by Hopkins a few fights before.