Sergio Martinez will have no problem beating Sergiy Dzinziruk.

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  1. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In fact, he will make it look easy.

    I know that I will get a fair amount of criticism by people who say that Sergiy is far too fundamentaly sound to be beaten easily, even by a boxer of Martinez' caliber, but if Sergiy is considered "textbook," Martinez went to a different school; a school designed for the gifted and tallented, and he learned from a different book.

    While it is a bit more complicated than this, and from a historical perspective not entirely accurate, contemporary wisdom has designated Sergiy's style as European, and Martinez's style as American.

    Both are excellent practitioners of their respective styles and each style has its advantages and disadvantages, but in this particular scenario, Martinez' style in combination with his tallent and athletic ability gives him a distinct advantage over his European counterpart.

    In order to understand Martinez' advantage and why he will win the fight in a way that will make it look easy, you need insight into each fighter's style and ability.

    Martinez is a fast fighter that uses movement, angles, footwork, and reflexes, to set up his attack and defend against his opponent. He has shown that he is also versatile, able to fight on the outside and recently, on the inside as he proved against Pavlik and Williams. In both William's fights, he also showed that he has underrated if not dangerous power, especially in his left hand. He also brings a good workrate and a high level of conditioning to the table, and the capability to go to war if necessary and has proved this at the highest level.

    He does have weaknesses; however, which can be exploited by the right opponent. For instance, in the first Williams vs Martnez fight, Williams used his height, reach, and ability to throw from multiple angles to score on Martinez at range, and ultimately Martinez' failure to adapt cost him the fight, even though many observers felt Martinez deserved to win.

    At the same time though, Martinez showed his tallent and ability by going even money mostly on the outside with a tall and awkward fighter who had a significant reach and height advantage.

    In the second fight though, Martinez nullified Williams' physical advantages by being more aggressive and fighting inside of William's reach, which made for a quick fight against the formerly undefeated champion.

    He used a similiar tactic against Pavlik, fighting both outside and inside, cutting Pavlik and taking away his heart in the process, ripping away the middleweight championship.

    Another way to beat Martinez is to maul him and force him to expend energy, while also throwing and awkward angles that are difficult for him to evade. While many believe that Martinez was green, and I don't disagree, Margarito was able to accomplish this.

    So while Martinez does have strengths, he also has weaknesses that can be exploited by a particular style and maybe more importantly a particular fighter who must excell within that style.

    The question is, does Dzinziruk have what it takes to exploit these weaknesses?

    If you analyze Sergiy, you'll see that he stands relativey straight up and down, and uses a classic high guard style, predominated by straight and precise punching, and dictated by an accurate jab. He is a tall fighter at 6'0,'' and rarely gets hits flush, but he is neither awkward or a mauling inside fighter.

    And against Martinez, his style will be exploited.

    First, you have to start with his level of competition. He hasn't dealt with anybody NEAR Martinez's caliber and he hasn't proved that he can deal with movement. In fact, Lukas Konecny was giving him fits by merely moving his head and ducking, let alone moving his feet and using angles.

    Another point is Sergiy won't have a southpaw advantage which can make him awkward and difficult to land on clean especially given his high guard and his opponent's inexperience with southpaw fighters. Considering Martinez's is a southpaw himself, who just fought a top southpaw for the second time in Paul Williams, it won't be an issue.

    In fact, the fact that it's two southpaws will nullify any potenial advantage Dziniziruk may of had, which is debateable within itself given the caliber and ability of his opponent. The reason being is that it will give Martinez even more options available that he can set up with the jab.

    This is a major part of what it will make this a one sided fight in Martinez' favor. As I've previously stated, Martinez does have weaknesses that can be exploited by the styles I've discussed or a SPECIAL fighter, Dziniziruk is none of these.

    He doesn't possess great athletic qualities, his punches are predictable, his angles are neglible, and his defense can be pentrated with the right style and practioner, which Martinez fits both of these descriptions.

    Martinez will take away Dziniziruk's jab with his elusiveness and movement, who will find it difficult to tag the small, often ducking target that is Martinez, and every time he shoots it, let alone any other punch he will be open for counterpunches that will come back in sharp, rapid combinations.

    In addition, Dziniziruk needs his feet to be set in order to be effective, but Martinez's footwork and angles will make it almost impossible for Dziniziruk to do this without first getting hit, or leaving himself open for counter punches.

    This brings me to my overall prediction for the fight.

    Dzinziruk will find out immediately that he is in with a different class of opponent and no amount of previous fights or sparring will compensate for his inexperience and inability to adapt. Martinez will take away his jab with hard counterpunches, possibly scoring a flash knockdown in the process, which will make Diniziruk reluctant to throw.

    Dzinziruk's activity level will drop drastically in the mid rounds while Sergio fires off rapid combinations, and completely dominates his outclassed opponent. The more Dziniziruk opens up, the greater his chance of being stopped rises.

    The likely outcome of this fight is that Dzinziruk survives the distance on a one sided beating, but I would not be surprised if he quits on his stool, his corner throws the towel in, or the ref stops the fight because he's not responding.

    This will be a one sided Martinez domination. It may be exciting, but only because Martinez will make it that way, but it will be completely one sided.

    Honestly, I think perhaps Dzinziruk should have tested the waters with Pirog who has a lot of potential, but is still green. Honestly, I would probably give Pirog a slight edge, but it's essentially 50/50.

    Pavlik likely stops him late.

    Feel free to weigh in.
     
  2. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Are there no Dzindziruk fans that believe otherwise?
     
  3. BoxKing

    BoxKing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You get a B on the essay.

    Good content but way too long.
     
  4. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, I bolded the bottom to get straight to the point and I felt I needed to elaborate because recently I've garnered the reputation of a troll, but that's far from the truth.

    I'm just angry about the events taking place in boxing right now, and will talk **** until things come into fruition.
     
  5. mckay_89

    mckay_89 Haw you! Full Member

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    Good post mate and I agree with most of your analysis. I can see this being like the Bradley v Peterson fight where Sergei will do his thing but will just not be able to deal with all the facets of the game brought to him by Martinez and whilst he'll be relatively competative he'll barely win a round. The point you made about him struggling with Konecnys movement is a good one because Martinez' lateral movement is some of the best in boxing.
     
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    nice term paper, you pass
     
  7. RafaelGonzal

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    Druk is on rails and has one punch the jab ....he is robotic and its almost as if he is playing the notes exactly as they are on the page meanwhile Martinez is playing Jazz.
     
  8. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    I'm just not gonna waste my time reading all that ****.
     
  9. BigBone

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    Dzinziruk has an elite jab and the key for Martinez is getting by it. Sergiy is a very highly skilled technically, but the jab is essential for things to work, and Maravilla has the worst possible style - fast and elusive, very hard to time and comes back from all angles which is very effective vs. European/Russian styled boxers.

    I think Martinez can neutralize the jab pretty early making Dzinziruk uncomfortable and unable to set up the right hand, so I see the Ukranian oprating with singe shots, with far less success than his opponent who'll unload combinations and remain on the move all night.

    Pretty sweet style match-up BTW, it reminds me a bit of Calzaghe-Kessler, the improvisational style of Martinez vs. the highly defensive and clean textbook style of Dzinziruk. The question for me is that will Martinez settle in to outbox the boxer on the move or will he be overconfident in his newfound power and give up footwork trying to bang Sergiy out? That would give the Ukranian plety of chance, and IMO the best thing Martinez can do is box early and turn on the heat later when he got Dzinziruk figured out, but I'm sure Gabriel Sarmiento is already taking notes in his legandary notebook.

    This is an excellent fight for the fan of sweet science.
     
  10. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I noticed that you believe Dzinziruk to be a real threat, so some insight would be appreciated. The bold portion of my thread gets straight to the point.

    On the otherhand after reviewing that Martinez also holds a 6 inch reach advantage according to boxrec (if accurate) this fight will even be easier for Martinez as Sergiy is virtually no threat.
     
  11. dubace

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    not really interested in the fight since i don't know the guy martinez is facing, but this is a good post and a good analysis from what i do know about both fighters.
     
  12. Peppermint

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    I slightly favor SD because I think he will give a counterpuncher like Martinez little to work with by keeping behind his jab and controlling the center of the ring. Martinez hasnt fought as diciplined as fighter as Sergiy yet either. It will be a good fight.
     
  13. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People say his jab is elite, but in my opinion, in order to prove you have something elite, you need to prove it against elite opposition.

    I just don't think Dzinziruk is ready to compete at this level and to be honest, with the level of competition at 154, and with guys like Pirog and Pavlik at 160, he has a long way to go before he can be considered one of the top guys.

    To me, it's just not at a competitive fight. Now, I'm not sure what other options Martinez had considering Mayweather and Pac haven't shown interest, Pirog is too green, and I'm not sure what Pavlik is doing, but at this point in Dzinziruk's career, he's going to be blown out by a far superior fighter.
     
  14. HENDO

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    I give Dizzy a good chance out there.


    The inactivity and jump in weight is gonna hurt him but the guy is a polished vet with lots of experience

    he also has beaten some tough names like Daniel Santos

    Martinez is athletically gifted and boxes based on that athleticism but he is not perfect

    Pavlik was winning or had it close til the 10th on a jab right hand alone

    Williams beat him the first time and was doing ok til the KO

    Martinez doesnt really have a defense his defense consists of just backing out of range with his hands down no blocking parrying bobbing weaving just backing out of range

    Dizzy is skilled and he will see this

    I am a big Martinez fan since before HBO showed him but he is not perfect

    Dizzy has been a long time holder at 154 and for whatever reason never got TV exposure here and never got the hugest of fights

    but i wouldnt right him off or call him easy