Shogun vs. Vera: Winner gets title shot?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Rob_Floyd, Jul 30, 2012.

  1. Speechless

    Speechless Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2012
    Messages:
    2,037
    Likes Received:
    47
    Wow, I'd be really surprised to see if anyone's actually excited about this.
    2 guys who are well past their prime, and have been beaten by Jon Jones already.
    If this fight happened 6 yrs ago, I might have been excited.
     
  2. Rob_Floyd

    Rob_Floyd Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2010
    Messages:
    9,425
    Likes Received:
    4
    Oddly enough, Bader would be most deserving if he wins.
     
  3. greathamza

    greathamza Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2011
    Messages:
    10,652
    Likes Received:
    1
    That is sad
     
  4. hammerofthor

    hammerofthor Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2011
    Messages:
    550
    Likes Received:
    0
    Surely the most logical fight would be machida III(if lyoto gets by bader)
     
  5. Primate

    Primate Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2010
    Messages:
    4,833
    Likes Received:
    6
    I'd be more comfortable for the winners of both matches to face off in a title eliminator. I'd watch Shogun/Machida again for 5 rounds.
     
  6. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2009
    Messages:
    3,400
    Likes Received:
    0
    **** me... I never thought I'd say this but...

    Out of Shogun, Vera, Machida and Bader, Bader is the most deserving of a title shot.

    (If each of them were to hypothetically win (not at the same time, literalists), Bader is the most deserving... and my head expolded)
     
  7. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2007
    Messages:
    18,550
    Likes Received:
    5
    The title of the thread should be Shogun to get title shot. Vera has no heart and never lived up to his potential. I'd be surprised if he found his courage overnight.
     
  8. kokoko

    kokoko Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2006
    Messages:
    593
    Likes Received:
    0
    True.

    I would give Machida the best shot, but he would still be a huge underdog.

    I would rather see someone who has not fought Jones be given a shot like Gustafoson, Davies, Glover, or even Gaygard. Maybe someone could drop down or come up. Vitor would be interesting while it lasted or a small heavyweight.
     
  9. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2007
    Messages:
    28,518
    Likes Received:
    86
    Well, assuming Rua beats Vera, who else deserves a shot at Jones more ?... Hendo beat Rua, sure... but he is next in line for a title shot, if Hendo beats Jones then Rua really has to earn the title & get revenge into the bargain... if Jones beats Hendo, same for Rua... either way you look at it, Shogun Rua is going to have to really earn the title if he is to become champ again, if he does it then nobody can say he didn`t deserve it.
     
  10. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2004
    Messages:
    37,070
    Likes Received:
    29
    Absolutely horrible. Dana changed it to best performance from 2 main events.

    Sorry, what about Gustafasson? Two main events could be eliminators to fight in an eliminator. Poor choice.

    Imagine if Vera gets a title shot!!!
     
  11. greathamza

    greathamza Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2011
    Messages:
    10,652
    Likes Received:
    1
    I would enjoy watching him getting executed like the guy or not JJ puts on a pretty good fight
     
  12. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2006
    Messages:
    8,123
    Likes Received:
    1
    Very won't get the shot.... But at this point nobody has really earned a shot including Shogun. But as said above Bader would have the most recent success if he should win. but after that Gust vs Lil Nog should be for the next shot and then after that Jones would be fighting recycled guys he's already destroyed.
     
  13. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2007
    Messages:
    18,550
    Likes Received:
    5
    I agree on Gust vs Nog. Either one of those would be an interesting matchup. I'd like to see how Jones handles a submission specialist like Lil Nog.
     
  14. Rob_Floyd

    Rob_Floyd Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2010
    Messages:
    9,425
    Likes Received:
    4
    I'm a Lil Nog fan, but I think Jones could easily do what Bader and Davis did to him, but in a much more impressive and dominant fashion.
     
  15. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2004
    Messages:
    5,126
    Likes Received:
    1
    Out of that lot, I would prefer to see the victory and title challenge of:

    1) Machida

    2) Shogun

    3) Bader







    4) Vera.


    But realistically, after Machida got destroyed by Jones the first time round, I don't think a win over Bader is enough for him to get a rematch.

    :hat