Should Danny Williams retire?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Words, May 31, 2008.


  1. dwilson

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    I am no fan of Skelton for those reasons but he is better than Williams.
     
  2. kurt2006

    kurt2006 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Skelton is not better in terms of ability but in terms of conditioning and dedication he wins hands down.
     
  3. dwilson

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    In terms of who I beleive will win if they fight again Skelton is better. If you could combine the best parts from both guys at thier prime you could possibly end up with a top 10 fighter.
     
  4. TFFP

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    Williams has more boxing ability in his little toe. He's a much bigger puncher than Skelton too.

    The only conceivable areas you could give to Skelton are mentally, and in conditioning. In pure boxing terms, it is absolutely no contest.
     
  5. dwilson

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    A prime in condition and focused Williams could have been a British boxing legend and could have put up a few half decent performances against top 10 guys but we never really got to see that when it mattered and now I think it is too late. He has chosen his path with these trainers he has got so expecting him to beat anyone now is hard. I can not see him getting back to any sort of form. Skelton is awful but has certain qualities that you have to admire him for and although he is bad he can give anyone a good workout. I would take Skelton over Williams right now and can see him beating Sinal SaM.
     
  6. TFFP

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    He might be a better fighter at present, he's not a better boxer. I have difficulity classifying Skelton as a boxer

    A current matchup would probably be close, and given the clowns in Danny's corner you could be right, as I don't trust them to condition him for 12 hard rounds. The 250lb peak Danny Williams beats his ass all day and night
     
  7. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I totally disagree, Danny didn't deserve to win that first fight and I thought he deserved to lose the second.

    Which isn't to take anything away from Danny, but I thought he should've lost both.

    After the hammering he took from Audley I thought it was finally over for Danny but he's still going, and there's no real reason for him to stop now either.
     
  8. dwilson

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    A prime Danny Williams would still struggle with Skelton because Skelton is a formidable if very crude beast while even the prime Williams was no great, good but not what he has been made out to be. I had Williams winning it close the first fight but the second was an easy Skelton win. All we would get if they met again would be another slow beat down from Skelton onto Williams with Williams fitness being the only thing seperating the fight from ending by UD or stoppage.
     
  9. J-Dog

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    Unfortunately Williams does get beat of Skelton all day everyday, the sad thing is Skelton is ****, good at what he does which is smother work, but its ****. Skelton has excellent work rate and doesnt stop coming, but he barely has a punch and could never see him stopping Danny but non the less he has his number.

    Danny doesnt have the fitness to keep Skelton off him for 12 rounds, he would need to box well every round and we know he just cant maintain it, he could knock Skelton out but Skelton got a better chin than rated and is real good at smothering work and shots.....

    But that doesnt mean Danny cant beat many other HW's, he shouldnt retire he should just get his fitness on par and jobs a good un, he got plenty of heart and he hasnt lost his dig.....
     
  10. 11player

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    Yup, Williams took a lot of punishment already and that's never a good thing, but there is no denying he is going through a good moment in his career again.

    If he wins against McDermott, which should happen, it may set him up for a big meaningfull fight later in the year.

    Funny thing is, I can't understand why Danny insists on coming to fight extremelly overwheight. He is showing up constantly 25lbs over what would be ideal. I read the other day his camp justifies it on improving his punch resistance, well it may do a slight difference, but it also makes him a lot slower, tires him up a lot faster, turns him into a lethargic easy target and is more bad than good.

    After fighting at Florida at 259lbs earlier in the year, I was hoping Danny would show up a little lighter at around 250lbs, then continue dropping wheight till around 240lbs, which should be ideal for a large 6'1.5" HW fighter.

    I thought Danny looked poor against Airich, considering his capabilities, and blame most of it on the excessive wheight, despite the win. If he continues to show up this way, he will lose bad as soon as he faces a legit top 10 HW.