Should Pac walk down Floyd a la Hatton?

Most of which were rolled, picked off or possibly blocked. Zab landed like 3 flush punches to Floyds face the whole fight.

Look at Zabs face at the end of the fight and look at Floyd. Floyd looked like he'd been in a light sparring session, Zab looked like Nickey at the end of Casino.

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I saw maybe 1 clean body shot. The rest were picked off or landed on Floyds elbows.

Sure. But Pacquiaos not a counter puncher, so whats it matter? Again whats Manny got for Floyds jab? That 72 inches. Cotto was connecting with his jab at 67 inches.

 

^ When have you see Floyd jabbing a southpaw? I can't recall? He just relies on straight rights and counter hooks over the jab.

 

Correct, Clottey landed a few right hands. Yet look at Pacs face at the end of the fight. He was bruised up and looked like he'd been in a war, yet he was basically fighting a punching bag the whole fight.

No take Clottey's defense, add Floyds foot speed, Floyds jab, and Floyds right hand.

What does that image say to you?

 

I dont see Floyd pressing Manny. He pressed Zab and Corley because they were boxers who liked to counter punch.

Manny comes forward willing. So you are saying purely based on styles Floyds not gonna use his best weapon against Pac which is his jab?

 

It says to me you have two styles that give eachother problems. But I'll take the guy who has a high punch output, ATG offensive skills, granite chin, and iron will over the cagey defensive fighter who can't hurt the other guy and potshots his way to victory.

 

That means nothing, because some fighters cut/swell easily. I've seen guys take very few shots, yet look beat up. Look at David Haye at the end of the Macca fight. He had a big cut whereas Maccarinelli had no blemishes on his face. You couldn't pinpoint one punch from Maccarinelli, though he himself was battered.

Same as another Haye fight against Valuev. Despite not taking any clean shots, he had quite a few bruises after the fight whereas Valuev was ok.

Facial injuries are an indicator but they aren't the rule. Some guys are just prone to these injuries because of their bone structure, so it can't be a universal rule.

 

I believe Floyd's style hasn't changed. He'll stay in front of Manny with a high guard and try to pick off/block the shots. And he'll try to sneak in some straight shots here and there.

I think he'll have a hard time countering as he did against Judah because of the fast hands. I think Manny's feet and in & out/side to side movement might confuse Floyd a bit too since he's used to fighting flat-footed guys.

In the end, Manny won't stop punching and Floyd won't stop being cagey, and that'll lead to a Manny UD.

 

Man you are dumb as hell.

You can draw similarities between Judah and Corley. Neither of them are ANYTHING like Pac other than being southpaw. Judah is faster off the line than Pac and punches straighter. Judah's success is Judah's. FMJ took over the fight midway through the damned 4th! Pac does nothing like Judah! FMJ tried to make a statement against Corley and din't fight like himself. The comparison is futile!

A few? WTF? You don't even get the point! It is how CLEANLY he landed at will! Every one he threw he landed clean and flush! Did you see Pac's face? All Mayweather has to do is throw 15 per round. Not like any will be wasted!

Now he is powderpuff puncher? Please. He will win the fight on points. Manny will chase and get his grill busted. Hit and not get hit.

 

Floyd cant hurt Pacquiao? Doubt that.

Also remember that at the sight of blood Pac basically breaks down. That right hand of Floyds will probably open up a cut sooner later, and that has proven doom more then once.

 

I hope Pac punches alot, more opportunities for Floyd to counter. Manny isnt a counter puncher. He likes to initiate contact. He is also a defensive seive, who even in fights he wins takes massive damage.

Not a good remedy for fighting a defensive counter puncher.

 

Well by your admission, Manny takes punches EXTREMELY poorly. Manny will probably have a swollen shut eye or crazy cuts.

 

From who, a powderpuff who barely throws more punches then Joshua Clottey? Clottey is a huge, heavy-handed welter. Cotto couldn't hurt Manny with his best shots.

It took Floyd 10 rounds to bring down Hatton, a natural junior welter. He couldn't take down Marquez, a natural featherweight. Couldn't hurt Baldomir, or Judah, etc.

I wouldn't be surprised if Pac walked right through whatever Floyd gives him and rips Floyd up.

 

It's well known that just about everyone Floyd has fought had their lowest punch connection rate, usually in the teens, meaning Floyd will block and make Pac miss a lot of punches.

To make up for the lower connection rate, Pac will have to throw more punches, way more IMO than he did against Clottey, say in the range of 1500-2000 punches if the fight goes 12 rounds. Lucky for Pac, he has the stamina to do so unlike when Oscar fought Floyd.

 

Mayweather has a 60% Ko percentage. only 7 points behind Manny.

He wrecked Hattons punch resistance. Swole Judah up and by Nacho Bernsteins admission significantly damaged Marquez so badly that he needed more time to recoup.

Floyd is no powder puff puncher. Not like it matters, Clottey and Cotto are both arm punchers, and both damaged Manny without landing all that much.

Mayweather hurt both Marquez and Judah, and cut Baldomir up pretty badly. Look at all 3 of these fighters faces after the fight, they were busted up. And if Manny bleeds like they did, psychologically he could be damaged as he doesnt take blood loss well.

Hatton's punch resistance was shot forever after he fought Floyd. He was getting rocked by Lascano and Malignaggi afterwards.

 

lol he won't have to throw that many punches. In fact, he can pick his shots and still beat Floyd. Just going to the body will rack up a lot of points for Pacquiao.

Pac isn't some flat footed straightforward fighter like most of the guys Floyd has faced.