Should Pavlik box with Abraham?

I see Pavlik using his range. The shots that Miranda got hit with where HUGE LOOPING WINDMILLS. If he just puts his hands up, he may have survived the round. I think Abraham carries his power the whole fight because he only throws 5-10 meaningful punches a round. Pavlik throws 80-100 punches a round. Each punch is heavy, maybe not a haymaker, but each punch is crisp, straight and very hard. Against Pavlik, you cannot take a break. the second you take a break, he breaks you.

 

Just let Pavlik keep doing what he's doing. I don't think he should change up a thing because what he has done up to this point has made him the Middleweight Champion of the world.

 

Against Abraham Pavlik need only do what he always does. Let his jab act as a jack hammer that drives his opponent back 75% of the time. The other 25% use it as a range finder, and to diguise the right hand that is already on the way. Use the 1-2 often. That's his bread and butter; no reason to abandon it. Throw solid lead rights to the head and body. Mix in a few left hooks, and uppercuts. There really is no reason for Pavlik to change anything. Abraham on the other hand would need to make a lot of changes if he wants to go beyond the middle rounds. People keeping talking like he's indestructable. He's a tough SOB, but 5 of Pavlik's last 6 opponents had never been stopped until the got Pavlikated!

 

I Just Finished Watching Pav Vs. Miranda And After Some Analysis I Think A Brutal Ko From Aa To Pav Is Not Out Of The Question, Imo.

 

:-(

1. Pavlik would not KO Abraham as he has a very good defence and a proper cast iron chin. He has not been KD in his whole carrer and fought Miranda with a broken jaw for 8 rounds, not to mention the fact that he took a punch that broke his jaw and never went down... ffs.

2. Abraham would need to make no changes to "go beyond the middle rounds" he will fight exactly the same way as he always does and give up rounds to workrate, and counter and hurt Pavlik when he does.

Middle rounds **** sake. Nuthuggers...

3. Pavlikated....**** me :-(

4. I would favour Pavlik to win a UD. Provided he does not get caught but if he does get caught he will get knocked the **** out. :good

 

That's funny, because Kelly is endorsing a home security system company out of Cinci.

 

Scar, I don't think we were watching the same fights?

 

Excuse me but I think you weren't. In the first round Pavlik hurt Miranda with a body shot, don't think he knew it but it was very obvious, then in the 2nd or 3rd Miranda just jumped all over Pavlik with bombs, Pavlik was stunned/dazed and Miranda ran out of gas hitting him so Pavlik was able to buy time. Pavlik wasn't dropped or wobbly all over the place but he was shaken with some of those punches that landed flush to the point where I thought Pavlik MIGHT hit the canvas soon, which he didn't. But Miranda did stun/rock him in that fight.

 

On paper this seems like an easy win for Kelly with him outworking Arthur and piling up rounds but if you look at it closer it's not. Both have great power but only one has a great chin and that's Arthur. I fell that Arthur will catch Kelly with something and put him away.

 

Pavlik wasnt never sutnned dazed in the Miranda fight..
he wasnt even shaken
watch the fight correctly, damn

 

You serious?, Pavlik WAS hurt in the 3rd or 2nd when Miranda jumped all over him. He wasn't wobbled or close to being dropped but he was stunned after taking some of those shots.

 

Yes! He should. Abraham can be beaten by Pavlik if Pavlik stays disciplined and stays clear of any A-bombs the first 6 rounds. He doesn't have to outscore Abraham, just stay with him point wise. After round 6 Pavlik should be able to take it to Abraham, plastering him with heavy punches. My reasoning is based on the premiss that Abrahams punch power drops significantly past the mid-rounds.

 

Yes I do understand what one-dimensional is and almost all of the fighters you support seem to have that style and I don't need you to explain it to me.

Abraham is NOT one-dimensional, a predictable fighter like Pavlik is one-dimensional, Abraham is NOT. The thing that got Miranda desperate in his two fights against Abraham and forced him to use illegal tactics is the fact that Abraham was unpredictable and left Miranda confused, same thing he did to Eastman if you remember that fight. Abraham would back off with his guard up at times then all of a sudden shoot it 2-3 big punches, he would also use his jab at times, take it to the middle of the ring when he has to...etc, that's NOT how a one-dimensional fighter fights. Throwing predictable lefts and rights and just stalking IS one-dimensional, not knowing how to adapt and go defensive when needed IS one-dimensional, Abraham doesn't fight that way and his tactic isn't always easy to figure out which keeps his opponent cautious at all times. You're the one who's crazy and need to watch more of his fights, one or two fights don't explain it all. The reason why Pavlik is capable of boxing here is his height, reach and jabs that he knows but "boxing" isn't only throwing jabs then hayemakers after them, a true boxer is a fighter that knows how to adapt, has movement and defense whenever he needs to use them. Abraham isn't a pure boxer, that's not what I said in my first post nor am I saying that here so please avoid from putting words in my mouth in your next reply as you always do once you hit the usual desperate level. My point is Abraham CAN adapt when needed and box if he has to in comparison to Pavlik, NOT in general.