Since the Pac defeated ODLH **UPDATE**

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  1. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    DLH gained 2lbs and weighed less than Pac in the ring.
     
  2. FORMIDABLE

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    Pac turned the boxing world upside down
     
  3. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    That's Oscar's fault for maintaining around 147 early in his training. It's his conditioning coach's fault too for implementing this on Oscar. Just like ole Jack Prescott said, Oscar has been shitting all day at the GBP Headquarters.

    "Bernard, where's my coffee?":nut
     
  4. PrinceN

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    well well welll look what I have here

    http://www.maxboxing.com/news/sub-lead/a-conversation-with-nacho-beristain-part-two



    We asked if that was the problem with Oscar going into that fight, too many voices in camp.

    “No,” said Beristain. “No, the problem was the drop in weight. His legs were not working well.”

    Beristain explained that De La Hoya’s plan to drop down to 147 well before the fight in order to become strong at that weight vs. the smaller Pacquiao completely backfired. De La Hoya’s strength coach, Rob Garcia, simply dropped Oscar too low in weight too soon and that ultimately left Oscar listless and flat in the fight.
     
  5. eze

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    Yes its Oscars fault but we still can't get give credit to Pac.
     
  6. igor_otsky

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    right on the button.:deal
     
  7. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought Oscar won the fight and blocked Manny's lefts perfectly with his face.
    As far as Hatton, if not for the lucky counter Hatton would have continued to dominate.
    Cotto was destroying Pac early but the extra pound or two took the life out of him in the 4th.
     
  8. PrinceN

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    honestly I remember thinking Oscar was going to win right up till that 24/7 where u see him finish training and get on the scale and u see him under the weight limit. And I was like "what the hell" why is hell is he under the limit right now? He def dropped weight way too soon.
     
  9. eliqueiros

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    There was a series of threads by Prescott right before the fight where he called it. Oscar was getting hurt in sparring sessions and looked like a skeleton.
     
  10. dendy

    dendy no easy way out Full Member

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    Didn't valero get sacked as a sparring partner cos he was smashing De La Hoya to pieces? Not saying there is any shame in this cos valero was a bit of a beast but.... the signs were there for Oscar.
     
  11. PrinceN

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    http://www.maxboxing.com/news/sub-lead/a-conversation-with-nacho-beristain-part-two

    No he got throw out for being an idiot




    “I chucked [Valero] out of Oscar’s camp,” said Beristain. “I asked them to give him his money and get him out. He was there in camp until 1 AM playing pool and drinking.”

    On the media day for that fight, held in Big Bear, CA where Oscar was training, De La Hoya was sporting a black eye. While some reports claimed it was from a sparring session with Golden Boy Promotions fighter Victor Ortiz, I had heard that Valero, who bet a large amount of cash on Pacquiao to knock out Oscar, was in fact the culprit. Beristain confirmed this.

    “Yes. He threw a punch after time was over,” said Beristain. ‘Time was over’ meaning after the bell had rung in a sparring session. “The next day, I chucked him out. That’s why he disliked me. Whenever he would see me, he would not say hello. Oscar’s brother said, ‘No, he’s not leaving.’ I told him, ‘Yes, he is leaving; he is leaving now.’ So Joel went to complain to Oscar. Oscar told Joel, ‘You have to obey. If Don Nacho said he goes, he goes.’”
     
  12. dendy

    dendy no easy way out Full Member

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    No surprises there then
     
  13. FORMIDABLE

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    Valero gave him the black eye, Oscar like the phoney he is went around saying it was Ortiz to promote his young charge, who also fought on the undercard.
     
  14. Bladegunner

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    Yep when he restarted this catchweight bull**** :rofl:rofl
     
  15. PrinceN

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    Dont remember but would not doubt it oscar is a known liar. He lied about doing drag, he lied about pac may negotiations :lol::lol: he is lying to Ortiz during the build up to this fight etc