So floyds not a cheater huh ???

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  1. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    cool answer...:good
     
  2. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hypothetically, if a boxer uses steroids, HGH and EPO before a fight, would you say that's legal? It's not illegal.
     
  3. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's not Lampley who is saying it. He is just saying what the researchers have told HBO and is relating that information. Mayweather would have told the researchers about his use of xylocaine.

    It's different to the Margarito thing, as you mentioned earlier, because that was just opinion. This HBO video is fact. Before these are released, the fighters team get to see them to approve what's in them and can pretty much edit them how they please. If this wasn't true, it wouldn't have been shown.
     
  4. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    1. urine test are enough to detect the use of KNOWN anabolic steroids and EPO.

    2. designer (unknown) EPO and anabolic steroids won't be detected from either blood or urine sample as their chemical composition is not known. (can you see what's in front of you if your eye is closed?)

    3. HGH can now be detected in urine- WADA just has to give the approval of its use.

    USADA in it's history has never caught HGH on any athlete with it's random blood testing. (so, how can you be so sure that USADA's random blood test for HGH is any good?)
     
  5. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Well lets see.

    Steroids themselves are illegal in the USA unless for medical... and under NSAC guidelines illegal to use at all times while Xylocaine is legal during training.

    No comparison.
     
  6. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Lampley was just relaying information that was told to him, you think he did the scoop research that night?


    Even then, we still don't know, what fight that he did use it.
     
  7. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Steroids aren't illegal, are they? I know they're usually sold illegally but they are prescribed drugs too.

    I'm not talking about in training. Would you say it's ok for a guy to take steroids and fight shortly after? Just hypothetical. I'm not really making a point here.
     
  8. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, he was just relaying the information, so you can't compare that to his opinion on Margarito.

    Is that the important thing? The fact is, Mayweather used it and it isn't illegal in some states so even though it's not clear, put two and two together.
     
  9. Marc

    Marc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Rick Rockwell
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    February 17, 2010

    What is the official word on Xylocaine? Is it illegal in the United States? Is it banned by boxing or any of the State Athletic Commissions? Why does Floyd Mayweather take it? After contacting the appropriate authoritative entities, I have the answers to these questions and more.

    US Food and Drug Administration (FDA)

    Lenny Brown Sacramento, CA Is Xylocaine approved by the FDA?

    I spoke today with a representative from the FDA via their Drug Information line. I asked them if Xylocaine was illegal or banned in this country. The representative said there are no bans on this drug. The representative also said that there would be no reason for individual states to make this drug illegal especially if its FDA approved. However, if this drug is administered by an I.V. or through injections then it must be done under the direct supervision of a licensed medical professional.

    World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA)

    One of the worlds leading authorities on anti-doping, WADA is the primary source for which drugs are banned in sports or athletic competitions worldwide. According to WADA, via GlobalDRO.com, None of the ingredients in this brand (Xylocaine) are currently included on the WADA Prohibited List. This means that Xylocaine is not banned by WADA.

    US Anti-Doping Agency (USADA)

    Mandy Craig Sacramento, CA Does the USADA ban Xylocaine?

    The USADA has a Drug Reference line where you can contact them via telephone and specifically ask them about any drug. When I called them yesterday, I spoke directly with their telephone doctor of the day. First, I must say that it was very informative being able to talk to a USADA doctor about this drug and the potential side effects. Anyhow, the doctor said that Xylocaine is legal for boxers to take via injection into the hands. He also said that individual state athletic commissions might have additional stipulations.

    Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC)

    In a conversation that I had with Keith Kizer, about the use of Xylocaine in the state of Nevada, Keith said that because It is not a prohibited substance under WADA or USADA; its not banned by the State Athletic Commission. However, Keith Kizer noted that the commission has added some stipulations to the use of Xylocaine.

    We dont want fighters to use it on fight day. We make sure they have full physicals to check for this. They will be told to stop doing this from the weigh-in through the fight. Fighters must only take Tylenol or ice for any pain.

    Conclusion

    As of February 17th 2010, Xylocaine is not banned according to the FDA, USADA, WADA, and the NSAC.
    In fact, I cant find any other State Athletic Commission that bans it either. So, Floyd Mayweathers use of this drug for his hands is not illegal. And, as long as he doesnt use it from the weigh-in through fight day, then he wont get into any trouble. However, this doesnt mean that this drug is still safe or something that the general public should just go out and acquire.

    Xylocaine, in most methods of usage, needs to be supervised by a licensed medical professional due to potential serious side effects like an abnormal heartbeat. In addition to potential side effects, there are also some long-term effects like dementia that could be experienced.

    Regardless of the side effects and the legal use of this drug, it still remains debated whether this drug gives Floyd an advantage or not. Its clear that there would be an advantage on fight day if he couldnt experience any pain in his brittle hands but is this drug a real advantage during training?

    According to BlueCross/Blue Shield Performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs) are prescription medications, like anabolic steroids and stimulants, as well as sports supplements and growth hormones that some athletes take to improve their energy, stamina and power while training or competing.

    According to The Mayo Clinic Performance-enhancing drugs and supplements are used to boost athletic performance, ward off fatigue and enhance physical appearance. They're also taken to increase muscle mass and strength.

    Xylocaine might be legal but it remains highly controversial. Does the legal allowance of this drug override the performance enhancements that this drug provides?

    Although, I think this drug is controversial and a PED, the very fact that it's still legal, according to those who I spoke with, makes me wrong for previously thinking it was illegal. I was misinformed, like a lot of people, when we were told that this drug was illegal. I was wrong, and unlike Floyd Mayweather, I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. If I'm going to hold others accountable then I have to hold myself accountable too. However, If anyone has any other evidence that this drug is banned in "49" states, then please contact me so I can verify it and check with the proper authorities.
     
  10. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    I didn't know it was legal for priests to molest little boys in Nevada.:huh
     
  11. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    How did he hurt his hand in the Baldo fight if he was using this stuff?
     
  12. markclow

    markclow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I dont care about the stuff he puts on his hands if its legal.

    I do care about the bull**** weight stunt he pulled against Marquez, netting him a 3lb weight advantage.

    Douche-bag.
     
  13. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Yes, floyd is a cheater. duh.

    New topic please.
     
  14. Zavy

    Zavy A fan among experts Full Member

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    another ***
     
  15. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    No hes faithful to Ellerbe.