So Is Fury King At Heavyweight For Beating Wilder, Or A Bumkiller & The Win Means Nothing? Pick One.

IBO belt?

Fury drawed with Wilder in their first fight and beat Wallin. Controversy exist in all RBRs.

"Probably, "I'd". These are all assumptions, opinions, I'll go with facts over your opinion. Like the fact that Fury beat 39 year old Wlad who was in the ring to make his 19th straight title defence, Joshua beat a 41 year old semi-retired Wlad who hadn't won a fight in 2 years and was coming off of an 18 months lay off.

Povetkin hasn't had a good performance in 5 years, and he's just as much of an old man as Ortiz is and probably has more wear and tear on him. I've rated Ortiz for years, picked him to upset Wilder in their first fight and he's just as good of a win as anyone on Joshua's resume bar Wlad.

Fury dethroned the previous lineal, legitimate, undisputed HW champion of the world(not because he held 3 belts) and beat the WBC champion who had 10 title defences and was coming off of a KOTY over a top10 HW. Martin and Parker were prospects with titles with Martin being the worst titlist in the history of the division. And the only reason Ruiz was a champion because he upset Joshua, his biggest claim to fame before that was being a lazy, fat underachiever, his losing efforts to Parker and looking terrible against the corpses of the Liakhovich and Kingpin Johnson. And Povetkin was as much of a champion as Manuel Charr is now.

 

Am I missing something? I thought it was Fury v Wilder on Saturday, so why the crying over Joshua lol.

You fellas have a massive inferiority complex over AJ ffs lol

For me the top of HW division is
Fury
Joshua
wilder

If/when Fury beats Joshua he will be the clear number 1. Same if Joshua wins

 

Wilder looked ass right from the start. Chin in the air, hands low, moving straight back, no reflexes. His speed was there, though, so Fury did good in not giving him his range.
I don’t think either one is very good, relatively speaking, but Fury showed me last night that he’s a more complete fighter. He rose to the challenge and wilder wilted.

 

I hear he went through 7 keyboards typing that out, apparently all the salty tears destroyed them.

 

Thats a mickey mouse perspective to have. Did you ever consider Wlad looked better against AJ because of styles? Or because AJ was still only a novice , too heavy at 250lbs and gassed out badly in the 5th and didn't recover till round 10??
Ill go out on a limb and say those factors had a little something to do with Wlad looking better against AJ than he did against Fury.

Fury style is vastly different to Joshua's and would always make Wlad look bad.

 

No. Wlad had a **** trainer after Steward died. He stayed with Steward's understudy because he was comfortable working with him, but that guy didn't have Steward's mind for tactics or understand how to make adjustments; so he just kept telling Wlad to jab and grab, which was all he comprehended about Steward's tactics. That loser had Wlad fighting tall against a taller man. He'd smother and grab on the inside when what he wanted to be doing was punching. It was **** tactics that only worked when Wlad was the taller man. You can see Wlad realized this in the later rounds, when he started kicking Fury's ass, but the adjustment came too late to save him in that fight. However, if he'd started the next fight fighting like he had at ended the first Fury would be unconscious by the middle rounds. It was fairly obvious to anybody with eyes that Fury was doomed in the rematch, which is why realizing he'd been insanely lucky and that Wlad had only had an off night, Fury refused to get in the ring with him again.

 

Wilder is garbage and so was 39 year old Wlad.

 

Regardless of one's opinion of Wilder, his resume, or his rudimentary skills, he was STILL one of the top 3 HW's. The way Fury won also should be taken in to consideration.

 

That guy you call a loser trained Wlad for the Joshua fight so thats absolute crap.

You completey ignored every reason I layed out that explained why Wlad looked better against Joshua than he did Fury because you had no answer for any of it.

Finally , Wlad never , at any point in the fight , came even close to kicking Fury's ass. It tells you how one sided the fight was when you try to make a big deal out of a solitary right hand that Wlad only landed because Fury reached around to pull up his trunks.

 

I'm an ass, have you actually read what you type in those long ass essays of know it all ism , not to Mention the insults you bandie about when you throw your toys like a spoilt child..

Yeh, nice one. Lol

 

Thread isn't really addressed to me, since I've never hated on Wilder.

Yet and still, what about all those of us who gave Wilder mucho credit before picking Fury to spank his butt?


Fury's victory is certainly significant. Wilder will be historically canonized as one of the division's most ferocious and awe-inspiring punchers of all-time.

 

You post history, like IntentionalButt's, reveals a strong aversion to him. I noted that years ago when I first began reading (then posting) here. More recently, you reigned in the venom; perhaps you authentically warmed to him over the last year or so, but you definitely weren't keen on the big fellow in past years.

 

Straight up!!’ I was not laughing at CST but laughing WITH HIM