so wait, Roy Jones got popped for steroids?

No, at the time, both ephedra and andro were legal for sale over the counter. Both were banned by the FDA in 2004. Andro increases serum testosterone levels, and I've already provided links to show that it can cause a failed steroid test.

From my point of view, it seems that nobody with any authority bothered to really push the follow up test and it wasn't considered a big deal by anybody at the time, so Roy just went on about his business. Roy said he had taken Ripped Fuel and was using 4way nasal decongestant. Murad Muhammad left the Ripped Fuel part out and said it was his understanding that the nasal spray caused the failed test, so that's where we get the two different stories.

 

Please read my follow up post

[url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12661823&postcount=104[/url]


As Andro wasn't recognised as an Anabolic steroid until 2004, then it couldn't have shown up as an anabolic steroid on a lab test conducted in 2001. Thus, it can't have been Andro that Roy Jones was caught with, meaning the Ripped fuel and nasal decongestant are most likely bull****.

As Dr Goodman stated, it's highly unlikely that over the counter products can show up on a lab test.

 

Yeah, I was aware of that... All of it. Andro was legally reclassified as an anabolic steroid and banned by the FDA in 2004.

The fact remains that andro has been shown to increase testosterone levels. What was that Jones got popped for again? Abnormally high testosterone levels? Exactly.

 

Yes, it could have.

The fact that it wasn't legally reclassified until 2004 doesn't negate the fact that it has been proven to increase testosterone levels, which is what Roy got popped for. :deal

 

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'Specimen A has a positive reading for Anabolic Steroid.'



He had the increased Testosterone levels, he was caught with and admitted to having anabolic steroids in his system. Andro would not have showed up as an anabolic steroid on the test conducted, due to it's classification and the point made by Dr Goodman.

 

Once again:

[url]http://www.muscle-building.com/androstenedione-supplement-review.html[/url]

Will Andro show up on a drug test?

It will show up IF they are specifically looking for it. Or it could trigger a false positive for testosterone by increasing the testosterone / epitestosterone ratio above 6 to 1 or 10 to 1 in some drug screens.
19-Norandrostenedione and 19-Norandrostenediol are a bit different. Since they convert into nortestosterone they will show up on a drug screen as "nandrolone" which is a marker for the anabolic steroid "Deca Durabolin".
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You must understand though, if, for example, your employer is drug testing you for recreational drugs (marijuana, cocaine, etc.) androstenedione will not show up. In other words, a drug test does not show every drug in the world. It will only reveal the drugs that the test is specifically looking for.​

 

Also, you missed this one:

The International Olympic Committee in 1997 banned androstenedione and placed it under the category of androgenic-anabolic steroids.

[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androstenedione[/ame]

 

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Really like who ?

Carl Froch is one of may favorite fighters as is Kessler ! Know what your tallking about before you call someone a hypocrite !

 

What year was that source written in? Does it specify what kind of drug test it will show up on? Remember, Dr Goodman stated that over the counter products are highly unlikely to show up on the drugs test that the Indiana athletics commission would use.

Furthermore, as we've established that Andro wasn't recognised as an anabolic steroid until 2004, what year was your source written in?

 

That's the International Olympic Committee, it's a different committee to the Indiana state committee. As was stated earlier,

'there is scant evidence that androstenedione itself is anabolic in nature.'

[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androstenedione[/ame]


It's unlikely that it would show up as an anabolic steroid on the test

Remember, it wasn't Androstenedione that showed up on the test, it was an 'anabolic steroid'. Andro is not anabolic, therefore it's highly unlikely that it would have caused an anabolic steroid to show up on this test.

 

You've been schooled to death on this subject by the highly respected Team Elite and Chincheckers.

I don't intend to engage you on a debate about Calzaghe and Jones. This is a thread about Jones' steroids cheating, that's what's being discussed. You clearly cannot refute the fact that Jones was a steroids cheat any longer, hence why you're trying to derail the subject.

 

Check it yourself. If that doesn't suffice, a simple google search will turn up plenty of other sources.

What year was andro first classified as an anabolic steroid by the boxing commissions? As I pointed out, the IOC classified it as one in 1997.

Andro has been proven to increase testosterone levels and Roy got popped for abnormally high testosterone levels. There's no getting around that fact. Be my guest and keep making yourself look like a ****ing idiot, though.

 

No little grooupie I owned you and the rest of your boyfriends know the diffrence boxing rec warrior .. I like this though you try to act like your in the know but you always need a lifeline ! I engage clowns like you because you infect these boards with ignorance .. Jones is only a steroid cheat to fans of fluffy fighters its obvious becuase its the same people saying the same **** over and over again ..You can call him him a cheat all you want but the real people in the know have already recognized his accomplishments ! Keep reaching for the sky you will never acheive your goal of actually discrediting areal all time great ! Continue your support of all time fakes ! Now go back to boxing rec :good

 

That was later confirmed by Jacob Hall, have a look at the letter

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'Specimen A has a positive reading for anabolic steroid'


Andro is not anabolic in it's nature, it wouldn't show up as an anabolic steroid on this test. It's not like they actually identified the substance, and could determine that this was 'Androstenedione'. The test came back positive for an anabolic steroid, Andro is not anabolic in it's nature (thanks to the source you provided), therefore it wouldn't show up on a test as an anabolic steroid.

Now then Cormonger, can you tell me why didn't Roy submit to the follow up test, when he could have cleared his name?