Hold on, I backed Hopkins (vCash:deal ) - you're the man who went on Pavlik. Hopkins beadie eyes were looking out at you... :hey
Yep. Unlike you I learnt from my mistake. I'm not talking about his damn age anymore because its clear as day it don't mean **** and he's elite anyway. He's a cyborg.
I do think his contentious scrappy split decision over Hopkins was a good/Great win - that's the way I feel.
So we remove your usual criticism of Hopkin's age. That means Calzaghe defeats a fighter who is going straight to the Hall of Fame and will be remembered as an ATG but you are still not impressed.
I do think his contentious scrappy split decision over Hopkins was a good/Great win - that's the way I feel.
OK, if Hopkins gets beaten in his next fight (like Taylor beat him twice prior to Joe) does Joes win suddenly mean nothing - of cause not.
I'm saying the same things I have said since the Hopkins/Calzaghe fight - no "penny has dropped". I wonder who Hopkins will face next? Dawson, Taylor 3, Kessler... ?
I meant in my mind. Hatton's scrappy foul filled win over an aging great obviously impressed you a lot so I was just wondering why you don't "go overboard" about Calzaghe's win. As for BHOP's next opponent Calzaghe has stated again that he will never have a rematch. So I'm thinking maybe Dawson or RJJ (can't see RJJ getting past Calzaghe, I agree with you that he is shot to bits).
If Roy loses I do hope that he doesn't still fight Bernard - Hopkins obviously still has a bit left in the tank, and something to offer.
joe beat hopkins in the only way he can be beaten, pavlik couldnt do it, its not rocket science is it really? whether it was scrappuy or not joe got the job done and pavlik wasnt even close, thats the difference
...and Pavlik beat Taylor twice, the same Taylor who on record beat Hopkins twice. The same Hopkins who beat Pavlik. Styles make fights.
It was a direct reply to a reply to my original statement of... "I do think his contentious scrappy split decision over Hopkins was a good/Great win - that's the way I feel." If you want me to fit my reply directly into the thread though... Styles make fights. One could argue that the fact that Bernard beat Pavlik, has little bearing on Joes win over Bernard. They are two separate fights. Hopkins simply always had the answer to Pavliks style - which would counter any physical decline. *Pavlik beat Taylor twice, the same Taylor who on record beat Hopkins twice. The same Hopkins who beat Pavlik. Same fighters, differnt style match ups, all beating each other* As I have said though I do think that Joes win over Hopkins was a good/Great win - that's the way I feel.