Sonny Liston vs. George Foreman

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  1. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    If that was what you got out of that snippet then I failed to convey my thoughts. I think it's more likely poor reading comprehension on your part.
     
  2. rusak

    rusak Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You tried to talk up Foreman's jab while suggesting that his work-rate would be a problem for Liston. It's bunk on both fronts. Foreman was a not a "jab-based" fighter like Ali and there's no reason to believe that he would turn into one against Liston. And if Foreman is behind the jab, then his work-rate would actually drop if he isn't just winging punches trying to take Liston out.
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Who has foreman ever walked through apart from two top 40 atg heavyweights?

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  4. Finito-Rick

    Finito-Rick New Member Full Member

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    I love foreman. He was simply amazing in his prime. A force of nature. But I have to side with Liston. I see this becoming a war where listons skill would eventually stop foreman. They're both incredibly strong. Intimidating. Tough chinned.
    Sonny by 8th round tko
     
  5. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can see Foreman getting Liston out of there early if he could jump on him like Cleveland Williams did in their first fight.
    However I like Liston in this one, he was really a very skillfull boxer and he had a good defence. I can see him getting Foreman on the end of that atomic jab and keeping him there. Liston could fight on the inside too if it came to it.
    Liston was strong enough that I don't think Foreman could easily impose his physicality on him and that takes a lot away from Foreman's game, he'd be forced to box and there's only one winner there. I think Foreman would be increasingly frustrated and start to unravel after the mid rounds. Liston hit's him more and more cleanly and busts up his face. Pts win or late cuts/swelling stoppage win for Liston.
    Again, I can also see foreman winning a short war by ko if he's able to start one.
     
  6. MadcapMaxie

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    Toxie Hall dropped Rocky Marciano in sparring therefore Hall TKO 7 Marciano
     
  7. MadcapMaxie

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    I honestly think Foreman would bomb out the technically superior Liston but could easily envision Liston using his superior skillset and good head movement to survive then take out Foreman as he begins to gas.
     
  8. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As mentioned before,

    i also read an interview from Foreman where he stated something similar.

    He said something like 'They all ran, all of them, Ali just lay on the ropes, Frazier thought he was tough but he ended up running, the one man who didnt run, was Sonny Liston'

    Tyson also said, the one man hed be scared of, was Sonny Liston.

    Liston was their daddy. a true thug, a criminal and he was much higher up on the 'badass' ladder than either Foreman or Tyson.

    Foremans got nothing to beat Liston with. Liston is just as physically imposing, and has the style advantage. But it all depends on how Liston reacts to Foremans initial onslaught.
     
  9. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Well you have two great punchers with equal power. Both guys are tough with good chins.

    When that is the case its the better boxer who will win. That is Sonny Liston. Sonny had a little tighter defense, he utilized his jab much better. Big George in his prime forgot that jab at times. Liston threw shorter, crisper punches and I think he beat Foreman to the punch more often than not.

    If it does go late that is another advantage for Liston. Foreman`s balance started to suffer the later it got in a fight.

    I think this one ends in the midrounds in favor of Sonny Liston by devastating KO. It would be borderline painful watching George Foreman eat those jabs from Sonny Liston square. It would be like walking into another man`s righthand hand.

    Liston just a little more complete.
     
  10. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    Yep. :good
     
  11. heavy_hands

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    i did think that in the year 2013 the people would know once for all how much overrated is sonny liston, a guy who never proved his power against great full sized hws,a guy who did absolutely nothing but beating a fragile natural lhw and getting exposed and humiliated by ali, or beating an average guy like cleveland williams. george foreman was bigger,stronger, hits harder with both hands , he had a much better chin, he had a much bigger heart, he did cut the ring much better, he proved his power against elite full sized hws, he won a fight after he got dropped twice. the people who think that liston could beat foreman boxing and jabbing are dreaming, i think that foreman i his prime was faster on his feet and maybe just maybe liston had a little faster hands, he could not run from foreman and if they had traded blows foreman would put the ass of liston out of the ****ing ring.. so in few words... foreman would kick the ass of sonny liston.
     
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  12. heavy_hands

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  13. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't believe Liston was or is overrated as a fighter at all. He was as he is described. He cleaned out the hwt division like few have ever done that's a fact. He then faced the undisputed champion and koed him in one round twice. What soils Listons record is sitting on his stool in losing his championship and the controversy legit or not over his second bout with Ali. The second bout ruined the rest of his career...or what was left of it. A bout with both men in their prime I'm picking Foreman. He had the physical strength to match or better Liston...I say better. I say George out physicals the smaller Liston and wins by corner stoppage or ko. Liston does not have the boxing ability to outbox prime Foreman....too immobile. Eventually Foreman belts Liston with a haymaker and it's all downhill for Liston from there. Once Liston is hurt and is being out bullied I don't believe he has the mental fortitude to come back. Foreman by stoppage in 7 rounds.
     
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  14. clark

    clark Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sounds about right.
     
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  15. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Liston had a better, more consistent jab than the pre-retirement Foreman. Liston hit at least as hard if not harder. Liston was a straighter puncher, threw far better combinations and had better stamina. I see Liston stopping him any time after four or so ... one of the very few guys that could do it ..