Sonny Liston vs Rocky Marciano

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Sonny Liston vs Rocky Marciano

  1. Marciano KO

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  2. Marciano Points

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  3. Liston KO

    92 vote(s)
    77.3%
  4. Liston Points

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  5. Draw

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  1. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    No matter. Charles then impressed with two filmed demolitions of Bob Satterfield and Coley Wallace which enhanced his “logical contender status”. You can’t do anymore than that.
     
  2. mcvey

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    He make this **** up as he goes along ,and then gets hurt when he is called on it.
    I've followed boxing for 65 years ,and in that time nobody has been a more logical contender than the man ranked NUMBER ONE!
     
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  3. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Not according to the official ratings. These are the first official ratings after August 1953 :


    Outstanding boxers

    1. Dan Bucceroni
    2. Ezzard Charles
    3. Roland LaStarza
    4. Nino Valdes
    jan 54:

    Outstanding boxers

    1. Ezzard Charles
    2. Nino Valdes
    3. Dan Bucceroni
    4. Roland LaStarza
    April 54

    Logical contender Ezzard Charles


    Outstanding boxers
    1. Nino Valdes
    2. Don Cockell
    3. Roland LaStarza
     
  4. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Choklab. :lol:
     
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  5. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    National Boxing Association. The only official ratings of the day.
    Formed in 1921 in Rhode Island, USA, the National Boxing Association (NBA) became the World Boxing Association (WBA) in 1962. (It is not to be confused with the current National Boxing Association, an unconnected body
     
  7. mcvey

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  9. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Check it out it’s all legit

    https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/National_Boxing_Association
     
  10. choklab

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    Exactly
     
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  11. choklab

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    Because it’s just a magazine. The Ring are usually a pretty decent guide but the magazines were months behind. The published month is often in the wrong edition..and the end of year annual ratings merely “the month ending the year”. If you want true chronology look at the quarterly published NBA ratings which are official.

    @klompton2 explained this to you a long time ago.
     
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  13. choklab

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    Valdes kind of did miss his go. Nino was due a shot around the second Charles fight..but they did that one again when it should have been Nino. Then Moore beat Nino around the time Rocky beat Cockell.
     
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  14. mcvey

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    I don't think Marciano would duck anyone,I think he would be affronted if somebody even suggested it.I do not think that is the case for his manager Al Weill.
     
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  15. klompton2

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    Its bizarre to me the people here laughing at Choklab for being the only person quoting the actual official ratings. As if what they want to believe or what a magazine that had ZERO official standing somehow trumped an organization that had the power to sanction fights, strip fighters, demand title defenses, etc. You can "take the Ring ratings" all you want but thats no different than saying "I'll just go ahead and ignore the official ratings and defer to whatever my flavor of the month is" in short, its living in fantasy land. The NBA had the backing of the vast majority of state athletic commissions and international sanctioning bodies. The Ring was nothing more than a magazine whose chief interest was in selling more magazines. Its ratings had no legitimacy and frankly those ratings and the articles found in Ring and cover stories were often dictated by where they wanted to sell subscriptions. People **** a brick when Oscar bought the magazine, saying "It will influence the magazine in one promoters favor" But this ignored the fact that for the first 50 years of its existence Ring was basically a mouthpiece for the NYSAC in general and MSG in particular. Its offices were in MSG and the magazine itself was started with funding and office space provided by Tex Rickard, a promoter just like Oscar. In fact Rickard wrote the first ratings Ring ever published and they werent exactly without his personal bias.
     
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