Strongest country by division?

I just assume everybody knows the pecking order in that family. :yep

Tomoki >>>> Koki >> Daiki. :good

 

Flyweight - #1 Mexico (Estrada, Marquez, Sosa), #2 Japan (Yaegashi, Igarashi, Kogawa), #3 Philippines (Viloria, Melindo, Fuentes), #4 Thailand (Porpramook, Kaikanha, Pepoem) #5 Argentina (Reveco, Narvaes, Ruiz), #6 South Africa (Mthalane, Sityatha, Chauke), #7 UK (Satchell, Butcher, Cunningham), #8 Puerto Rico (Gonzalez, Arroyo, Soto), #9 France (Guerfi, Masson, Beccu), #10 Spain (Olteanu, Urpi, Pozo)

 

Light flyweight - #1 Mexico (Hernandez, Fuentes, Guevara), #2 Japan (Ioka, Inoue, Taguchi), #3 Philippines (Nietes, Casimero, Petalcorin), #4 Nicaragua (Gonzalez, Alvarado, Cardoza), #5 South Africa (Joyi, Magwaca, Siila), #6 Thailand (Pharob, Porpramook, Saengthep), #7 Panama (Rios, Diaz, Cabarca), #8 Indonesia (Seran, Monabesa, Amol), #9 Colombia (De La Rosa, Ramos, Fuentes), #10 Puerto Rico (Vazquez, Del Valle, Rivera)

 

Strawweight - #1 Japan (Miyazaki, Takayama, Hara), #2 Mexico (Silvestre, Lopez, Yedras), #3 South Africa (Budler, Khonco, Kwayiba), #4 Philippines (Cuello, Sabillo, Handig), #5 Nicaragua (Buitrago, Ortiz, Rojas), #6 Thailand (Menayothin, Freshmart, Pigmy), #7 Colombia (Diaz, Estrada, Mendoza), #8 Indonesia (Rachman, Raknafa, Hagler), #9 Tanzania (Mkenya, Kipande, Yahya), #10 Yemen (Raymi, Awdan, Humaidi)

 

That was some absolute bottom-of-the-barrel-scraping work near the end.

At 108 and 105lbs it was next to impossible to find ten whole countries offering three non-tomato cans. :!:

Big drop off in class from the first to last nation, compared to higher up.

Very homogenous divisions, with most of the real talent weighted disproportionately from a small handful of places.

 

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Still open to suggestions & debate:

Strictly on h2h talent of each country's best trio.

Heavyweight - #1 Ukraine (K2, Glazkov), #2 Russia (Povetkin, Boytsov, Platov), #3 UK (Haye, Fury, Chisora), #4 Cuba (Solis, Perez, Ortiz), #5 USA (Thompson, Jennings, Wilder), #6 Poland (Szpilka, Adamek, Wach), #7Germany (Charr, Wallisch, Hammer), #8 Australia (Browne, de Mori, Leapai), #9 Canada (Stiverne, Bence, Pajkic), #10 Uzbekistan (Chagaev, Muralimov, T. Ibragimov)

Cruiserweight - #1 Germany (Huck, Arslan, Graf), #2 Russia (Lebedev, Chakhkiev, Drozd), #3 Poland (Diablo, Masternak, Kolodziej/Glowacki - can't split them), #4 Cuba (Hernandez, Dorticos, Rodriguez), #5 South Africa (Mchunu, Makabu, Mwekassa), #6 Italy (Branco, Fragomeni, Larghetti), #7 Australia (Green, Pitt, Amman), #8 USA (Chambers, Flores, Thomas), #9 Ukraine (Kucher, Kiladze, Shabransky), #10 Canada (Ross, Daley, Norrad)

Light heavyweight - #1 USA (Hopkins, Cloud, Dirrell), #2 Canada (Pascal, Stevenson, Bute), #3 Russia (Kovalev, Grachev, Bektemirov), #4 UK (Bellew, Cleverly, Maccarinelli), #5 Germany (Braehmer, Woge, Gutknecht), #6 Cuba (Barrera, Gonzalez, Savigne), #7 Poland (Fonfara, Kostecki, Glazewski), #8 France (Mohammedi, Ngumbu, Zoulikha), #9 Colombia (Alvarez, Miranda, Zuniga), #10 Argentina (Bolonti, Pokemon, Corzo)

Super middleweight - #1 UK (Froch, Groves, DeGale), #2 USA (Ward, Rodriguez, Gonzales), #3 Germany (Stieglitz, Abraham, Zeuge), #4 Denmark (Kessler, Markussen, Larsen), #5 Mexico (Periban, Sierra, Porky), #6 Argentina (Maderna, Baldomir, Acosta), #7 Russia (Vlasov, Sukhotsky, Kulumbegov), #8 Colombia (Brand, Angulo, Berrio), #9 Poland (Cendrowski, Dobrowski, Wawrzyczek), #10 Italy (Ndiaye, Di Luisa, Sanavia)

Middleweight - #1 UK (Barker, Murray, Macklin), #2 Australia (Geale, Soliman, Mundine), #3 USA (Quillin, Jacobs, Stevens), #4 Argentina (Martinez, Godoy, Heiland), #5 Mexico (Chavez Jr., Rubio, Cota), #6 Russia (Korobov, Meryasev, Chudinov), #7 France (N'Dam N'Jikam, Sainte, Bouadla), #8 Canada (Lemieux, Onolunose, Vanderpool), #9 Ireland (Lee, O'Sullivan, Fitzgerald), #10 Japan (Murata, Ishida, Fuchigami)

Light middleweight - #1 Mexico (Alvarez, Molina, Angulo), #2 USA (Trout, Smith, 3rd spot up for grabs between either Charlo brother or the winner of Martirosyan vs. Andrade), #3 Puerto Rico (Cotto, J. Gonzalez, Flores) #4 UK (Rose, Godding, Smith), #5 Argentina (Maciel, Pitto, Cuello), #6 Cuba (Lara, Jhonson, Fitz), #7 Germany (Culcay, Torosyan, Arik), #8 France (Horta, Soro, Vitu), #9 Ghana (Okine, Sai, Bruce), #10 Brazil (Teixeira, Ataide, Oliveira)

Welterweight - #1 USA (Mayweather, Bradley, Broner), #2 Mexico (Marquez, Soto Karass, Cano), #3 Philippines (Pacquiao, Laurente, Melligen), #4 Argentina (Abregu, Maidana, Chaves), #5 UK (Brook, Gavin, Purdy),#6 Italy (Bundu, Petrucci, Branco), #7 South Africa (van Heerden, Mabuza, Hlatshwayo), #8 Canada (Bizier, Zewski, Decarie), #9 Japan (Kamegai, Watanabe, Takayama), #10 Australia (Omotoso, Zappavigna, Ben Rabah)

Light welterweight - #1 USA (Garcia, Peterson, Alvarado), #2 Argentina (Matthysse, Cuenca, Godoy), #3 Russia (Allakhverdiev, Provodnikov, Papazov), #4 Mexico (DeMarco, Soto, Orozco), #5 Ukraine (Postol, Redkach, Fedchenko), #6 UK (Khan, McCloskey, Hamilton), #7 Dominica (Guzman, Abreu, Cayo), #8 Panama (Mosquera, Mosquera, Renteria), #9 South Africa (Marali, Funeka, Yoyo), #10 Colombia (Prescott, Mendoza, Ramos)

Lightweight - #1 Mexico (Vazquez, Estrada, Beltran) #2 UK (Burns, Mitchell, Crolla), #3 Cuba (Gamboa, Abril, Santana), #4 USA (Crawford, Figueroa, Gonzalez), #5 Russia (Shafikov, Klimov, Nugaev), #6 Uzbekistan (Rahimov, Mamadjanov, Rihsiev), #7 Japan (Aoh, Kato, Arakawa), #8 Italy (Marsili, Giacon, Zamora), #9 Philippines (Farenas, Gesta, Sismundo), #10 Colombia (Perez, Estrada, Buelvas)

Super featherweight - #1 Japan (Uchiyama, Miura, Nakamura), #2 USA (Magdaleno, Cherry, Russell), #3 Mexico (Burgos, Felix, Thompson), #4 Cuba (Barthelemy, Collado, Franco), #5 Puerto Rico (Martinez, Verdejo, Pedraza), #6 Canada (Laham, Usmanee, Lavallee), #7 UK (Smith, Simpson, Buckland), #8 Dominica (Mendez, Rodriguez, Lorenzo), #9 Italy (Boschiero, De Vitis, Riguccini), #10 Australia (Tomlinson, Fleming, Dib)

Featherweight - #1 Mexico (Gonzalez, Mares, Salido), #2 USA (Garcia, Marroquin, Rios), #3 Panama (Corrales, Caballero, Sanchez), #4 Indonesia (John, Yordan, Rasmanudin), #5 Japan (Hosono, Hasegawa, Shimoda), #6 Puerto Rico (Cruz, Lopez, Velez), #7 Russia (Gradovich, Arsaev, Gusev), #8 UK (Selby, Mouneimne, Lindsay), #9 Dominica (Fortuna, Reyes, Marrero), #10 Australia (Brunker, Dib, Smith)

Super bantamweight - #1 Cuba (Rigondeaux, Salinas, Socarras), #2 Mexico (Santa Cruz, Mijares, Gutierrez), #3 Philippines (Donaire, Servania, Francisco), #4 UK (Frampton, Quigg, Galahad), #5 Japan (Ishimoto, Wake, Otake), #6 Puerto Rico (Vazquez Jr., Rosa, Del Valle), #7 USA (Magdaleno, Avalos, Morales), #8 South Africa (Mathebula, Sinyabi, Sonjica), #9 Colombia (Escandon, Romero, Melendez), #10 Dominica (Vicente, Guzman, Dominguez)

Bantamweight - #1 Japan (Yamanaka, Iwasa, T. Kameda), #2 Thailand (Chokchai, Iamsiri, Singyu), #3 Mexico (Ruiz, Ceja, Rojas), #4 Philippines (Lunas, Tapales, Tunacao), #5 USA (Caballero, Ximenez, War.ren), #6 Puerto Rico (Seda, Nieves, Vidal), #7 UK (McDonnell, Haskins, Ward), #8 Ghana (Agbeko, Amuzu, Owusu), #9 South Africa (Malinga, Sityatha, Helebe), #10 Argentina (Santillan, Bulacio, Nieva)

Super flyweight - #1 Mexico (Sanchez Jr., Orucuta, Cuadras), #2 Thailand (Rungvisai, Singwancha, Sithsamerchai), #3 Argentina (Narvaez, Chacon, Sosa), #4 Philippines (Villanueva, Dapudong, Mayol), #5 Japan (Kono, Hisataka, Kinoshita), #6 Panama (Vides, Nunez, Escudero), #7 South Africa (Buthelezi, Tete, Mvula), #8 Puerto Rico (Arroyo, Quijano, Perez), #9 UK (Butler, Yafai, Conlan), #10 Nicaragua (Briceno, Rueda, Zamora)

Flyweight - #1 Mexico (Estrada, Marquez, Sosa), #2 Japan (Yaegashi, Igarashi, Kogawa), #3 Philippines (Viloria, Melindo, Fuentes), #4 Thailand (Porpramook, Kaikanha, Pepoem) #5 Argentina (Reveco, Narvaes, Ruiz), #6 South Africa (Mthalane, Sityatha, Chauke), #7 UK (Satchell, Butcher, Cunningham), #8 Puerto Rico (Gonzalez, Arroyo, Soto), #9 France (Guerfi, Masson, Beccu), #10 Spain (Olteanu, Urpi, Pozo)

Light flyweight - #1 Mexico (Hernandez, Fuentes, Guevara), #2 Japan (Ioka, Inoue, Taguchi), #3 Philippines (Nietes, Casimero, Petalcorin), #4 Nicaragua (Gonzalez, Alvarado, Cardoza), #5 South Africa (Joyi, Magwaca, Siila), #6 Thailand (Pharob, Porpramook, Saengthep), #7 Panama (Rios, Diaz, Cabarca), #8 Indonesia (Seran, Monabesa, Amol), #9 Colombia (De La Rosa, Ramos, Fuentes), #10 Puerto Rico (Vazquez, Del Valle, Rivera)

Strawweight - #1 Japan (Miyazaki, Takayama, Hara), #2 Mexico (Silvestre, Lopez, Yedras), #3 South Africa (Budler, Khonco, Kwayiba), #4 Philippines (Cuello, Sabillo, Handig), #5 Nicaragua (Buitrago, Ortiz, Rojas), #6 Thailand (Menayothin, Freshmart, Pigmy), #7 Colombia (Diaz, Estrada, Mendoza), #8 Indonesia (Rachman, Raknafa, Hagler), #9 Tanzania (Mkenya, Kipande, Yahya), #10 Yemen (Raymi, Awdan, Humaidi)

 

i may be biased but ranking wise i do think at bantamweight no.5 for usa is too high with both uk and rico fighters have thought at a higher level with exeption of cabellero who may be better than mcdonnol with talent however ximerez is he better than guy like seda or haskins even though he lost jamoye but jamoye is better than nicole who struggled with.

but ib you must rateing in potential so than i can under stand especially with warrren who has thought nobody

 

also why is dirrel in lhw it should be dawson

 

I think UK should be top at super bantam with Quigg and Frampton

 

Going by the above findings...

Strongest & deepest countries overall across every sport in boxing:

1. Mexico (#5 SMW, #5 MW, #1 LMW, #2 WW, #4 LWW, #1 LW, #3 SFW, #1 FW, #2 SBW, #3 BW, #1 SFW, #1 FW, #1 LFW, #2 SW) [117pts]
2. USA (#5 HW, #8 CW, #1 LHW, #2 SMW, #3 MW, #2 LMW, #1 WW, #1 LWW, #4 LW, #2 SFW, #2 FW, #7 SBW, #5 BW) [100pts]
3. UK (#3 HW, #4 LHW, #1 SMW, #1 MW, #4 LMW, #5 WW, #6 LWW, #2 LW, #7 SFW, #8 FW, #4 SBW, #7 BW, #9 SFW, #7 FW) [86pts]
4. Japan (#10 MW, #9 WW, #7 LW, #1 SFW, #5 FW, #5 SBW, #1 BW, #5 SFW, #2 FW, #2 LFW, #1 SW) [73pts]
5. Philippines (#3 WW, #9 LW, #3 SBW, #4 BW, #4 SFW, #3 FW, #3 LFW, #4 SW) [55pts]
6. Russia (#2 HW, #2 CW, #3 LHW, #7 SMW, #6 MW, #3 LWW, #5 LW, #7 FW) [53pts]
7. Argentina (#10 LHW, #6 SMW, #4 MW, #5 LMW, #4 WW, #2 LWW, #10 BW, #3 SFW, #5 FW) [50pts]
8. Cuba (#4 HW, #4 CW, #6 LHW, #6 LMW, #3 LW, #4 SFW, #1 SBW) [49pts]
9. South Africa (#5 CW, #7 WW, #9 LWW, #8 SBW, #9 BW, #7 SFW,#6 FW, #5 LFW, #3 SW) [40pts]
10. Puerto Rico (#3 LMW, #5 SFW, #6 FW, #6 SBW, #6 BW, #8 SFW, #8 FW, #10 LFW) [36pts]
11. Thailand (#2 BW, #2 SFW, #4 FW, #6 LFW, #6 SW) [35pts]
12. Germany (#7 HW, #1 CW, #5 LHW, #3 SMW, #7 LMW) [23pts]
13. Canada (#9 HW, #10 CW, #2 LHW, #8 MW, #8 WW, #6 SFW) [23pts]
14. Panama (#8 LWW, #3 FW, #6 SFW, #7 LFW) [20pts]
15. Poland (#6 HW, #3 CW, #7 LHW, #9 SMW) [19pts]
16. Australia (#8 HW, #7 CW, #2 MW, #10 WW, #10 SFW, #10 FW) [19pts]
17. Ukraine (#1 HW, #9 CW, #5 LWW) [18pts]
18. Italy (#6 CW, #10 SMW, #6 WW, #8 LW, #9 SFW) [16pts]
19. Colombia (#9 LHW, #8 SMW, #10 LWW, #10 LW, #9 SBW, #9 LFW, #7 SW) [15pts]
20. Nicaragua (#10 SFW, #4 LFW, #5 SW) [14pts]
21. Indonesia (#4 FW, #8 LFW, #8 SW) [13pts]
22. France (#8 LHW, #7 MW, #8 LMW, #9 FW) [12pts]
23. Dominica (#7 LWW, #8 SFW, #9 FW, #10 SBW) [10pts]
24. Uzbekistan (#10 HW, #6 LW) [7pts]
25. Denmark (#4 SMW) [7pts]
26. Ghana (#9 LMW, #8 BW) [5pts]
27. Ireland (#9 MW) [2pts]
28. Tanzania (#9 SW) [2pts]
29. Brazil (#10 LMW) [1pt]
30. Spain (#10 FW) [1pt]
31. Yemen (#10 SW) [1pt]

I assigned points on a reverse ten-scale for each divisional ranking (so being ranked 1st nets you 10 points and 10th a single point, 2nd nine points and 9th two, etc.) and tallied up to determine these. In case of a tie my thought was to just look at their h2h record in common divisions. IE Germany beats Canada 2-1 in divisions. Germany is #7 HW and #1 CW, trumping Canada's #9 and #10 - even though Canada is #2 at LHW while Germany is #5. Poland slaughters Australia in their common divisions. In lieu of any common ground I gave Uzbekistan the nod over Uzbekistan for placing in two divisions in spite of Denmark getting the highest single ranking between them. For the remaining ties with no commonality, I ranked based on seeming 'toughness' of the division. For instance - Ireland placing #9 at middleweight is more impressive than Tanzania placing #9 at strawweight.

 

Anthony Dirrell, not Andre. :good

If you look at the American light heavyweights, Anthony is clearly #3.

Dawson is done. If they fought Dirrell would be KTFO, brutally.

Again, in my rankings I usually err on the side of giving too much credit to h2h ability rather than accomplishments on paper.

 

Good catch, yeah he's Ukrainian, not sure why I thought otherwise.

Yeah, Abdusallamov in his place.

 

true but he is moving back down bika fight