Sturm is a very real chance of beating Abraham or Pavlik

Pavlik is slooooow with hands at feet, that´s one of his, if not his biggest, flaw.

Abraham hits with hooks right but not very often and his hooks can be easily seen and so avoided.

 

I think the opposite in regard to AA's hooks. I think his powerful punches can come from every possible angle and are nearly unpredictable which is why so many guys got hit flush and dropped like a bag of bricks.

 

Sturm was caught by some uppercuts from Castillejo so that should be completely out of the equation when it takes to think about the chance of Felix beating either Abraham or Pavlik. Sturm takes the shots that AA or KP applied on Miranda and he is outa there fo'sure... And Felix Sturm is not Bernard Hopkins by any means whatsoever in case that hasn't come to mind.

 

Well said. I'm a little reluctant to go overboard in rating anyone who is best known for a loss (in this case the DLH fight). It wasn't so long ago that Sturm was losing to Castillejo.

 

They are telegraphed, you can see them vcoming before he throws them. Watch his shoulders. His rights are far more dangerous because they are not telegraphed, for example the punch that sterted the end of Miranda was a quick short right hand.

 

Loss? That was a robbery. Yeah he lost to Castillejo because he wanted to slug with him, do you expect him to make the same mistake with Abraham or Pavlik. I do not.

 

you make some good points but the problem with building up fighters who make a career of fighting b-grade fighters (except for the oscar fight, which he followed up by returning to europe and fighting more stiffs...), is it's easy to judge the fighter who is fighting much better opposition because he's fighting on the level he should be while guys like sturm are not.

 

Outside of Taylor Pavlik has not beaten better opponents than Sturm. Abraham and Sturm are quite compareble in regards to their opponents.

 

let me ask you this.

why do you think abraham is coming to the US to fight?

 

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Winky on this thread. Winky/Sturm and Pavlik/Abraham are the two fights that make the most sense. Afterward the winner of Winky/Sturm should fight the winner of Pavlik/Abraham. Right now we have 4 middleweights who stand head and shoulders above the rest. Assuming Winky looks good in his come back, and stays active, I rate them this way:

#1 Kelly Pavlik
#2 Winky Wright
#3 Arthur Abraham
#4 Felix Sturm.

Pavlik beats Winky and Sturm with relative ease. He's to big and strong for either guy, and neither has enough power to buy his respect. That means KP can just go into his normal seek and destroy mode, and beat 7 shades of **** out of either guy. If either guy wanted to get into a jabbing contest, I'm sure Kelly would be happy to oblige them. Either one would end up feeling like the guy who brought a knife to a gun fight. Sturm gets mauled and stopped in the mid rounds. Winky gets stopped on accumulation in the late rounds, or loses a clear UD.

Arthur beats Sturm simply because Sturm would not be able to hurt Arthur. He'd have 12 rounds to land the money shot. Eventually he'd find a way. I can easily imagine a scenario where Arthur is behind on the cards, and then, BANG, the fight is over. In this fight one guy has a fly swatter and the other has a 50mm canon.

Winky, assuming he gets back into decent form, beats Arthur by a convincing UD. Opportunities for Arthur to land that one big right hand he needs would be few and far between. If he did land it, Winky knows what to do when he is hurt, and he has one helluva chin. Winky, 116-112.

There's a lot of talk about Sturm's jab on this thread, but it's not better than Winky's. Wright is simply in a whole different class from Felix, and would give him a boxing lesson.

Pavlik/Abraham is a VERY interesting clash of styles. Arthur's habit of going to the ropes or a corner when he is under pressure would get him in big trouble. You MUST NOT allow KP to catch you on the ropes. He'll turn the ring into a ****ing phone booth, and leave you slumped on the canvass. On the other hand, Kelly has a history of getting caught early. If AA kept the fight in the middle of the ring, and caught Pav within the first 4 rounds, he could win. If he fights the way he normally does, it's Pavlik KO8 Abraham.

 

I think Sturm COULD beat Pavlik, who is clearly one-dimensional. Mainly because I'm not sure of the psychological damage down to Pavlik since the B-Hop fight.

But I'd pick Abraham to beat Sturm after a close fight with a TKO in the championship rounds.

 

Dont forget that AA's coach orderned AA to take it easy and go the full route with Shannon Taylor. AA's coach wanted to watch his boy go the full 12 rounds of boxing.AA won every round of his encounter with Taylor.I guess it must have been tough for AA to hold back his firepower and not go for the scalp of his foe!

Ayala as well as Gainer are runners. AA has always had problems with these kind of opponents. Sturm isnt exactly a runner like Ayala.Sturm has a great jab,and he for sure knows how to counterbox and show a smart show of boxing.I for one dont think that that will be enough to hold AA at bay for 12 long rounds.
My pick: AA by ko between round 6 and 12.

 

Sylvester looked bad on saturday.
Sturm isn't good enough to win against Pavlik, Abrahm Wright and Mundine.
Sturm hasn't the punch to keep this guys away.
Abraham and Pavlik would steamroll him
Pavlik could also fight him from the outside and Knock him out.
Sturm has only a chance to win on points against this guys.

 

The worst post in this thread until now :good

 

Winky would beat all three of them IMO.