Stylistically Margarito would of destroyed Mayweather makes so much sense he did not fight him

What part of more skilled better and faster fighters had trouble landing on pbf dont you understand?

Pbf is not there to be hit hes not going to just stand in front of margo and give him a target to throw his slow telegraphed shots. He has atg defense with great vision and punch anticipation. You act like Margo has some type of exotic skillset. He doesn't he's a ****ing slow handed plodder who comes forward with no jab looking to wear weak willed bad stamina and bad chinned guys down with volume stamina and his chin. If you can stand up to his attack he can be easily outboxed and dealt with. There's nothing complicated about his approach or skill level. Quit trying to make this guy to be more than what he is. He wasnt good, just because pbf didnt fight him wishful thinkers like you like to exaggerate his overall ability and his accomplishments.

Once again you've completely missed the boat. You keep talking about we don't know if pbf can beat his style when you should be talking about we dont know if margo can beat pbf's . Because the last time i checked pbf is 50-0-0 and margo has 8 losses and many of those wins are against fighters who are better and harder stylistic match ups for pbf than margo is those are facts. You need to talk about that. And for the last time stop talking about pbf doesn't have anything to keep margo off of him. What did pea Whitaker have to keep your hero jcc off of him? Yet he still schooled him. whether punches have any effect or not is irrelevant that's not scoring criteria and they're still scoring shots that win rounds.

I see pbf fighting his fight lowering Margo's workrate up by several rounds because margo is a slow starter, which you dont like to address, jab to the body pull counters lead right hands and a counter punching clinic and then gone in the wind all while not fading. Margo isnt going to outbox him he isn't going to out point him he's not going to knock him out. How does he win? Margo isn't going to hit pbf more than he hits him he's too slow has **** timing not accurate enough, that's why he throws in volume because he lacks overall skill that's not good enough to beat pbf never has been. There's nothing to suggest that happens, it's never happened against pbf in 50 fights. While we've seen margo get beat 8 times by guys not on the same level of pbf

Pbf is rated just fine he was just named fighter of the decade in case you missed it. Pac ducked pbf for years because of testing, when they fought he schooled pac a guy who beat the **** outta margo btw. Williams lost and moved up, margo got exposed and didnt keep wining and had pbf fought him and shut him out he'd be seen as just another slow come forward Mexican who pbf eats for breakfast and the win would be downplayed and rightfully so because he wasnt good. Just like the Williams win over the bum is downplayed. Margo ain't the one too slow too limited not great enough, try again.

 

Its would've

And no, he wouldn't've

 

The myth of margarito is beyond debunked. The guy was caught red handed loading his wraps and did absolutely nothing after he was exposed. The idea that he could beat Mayweather without cheating is baseless

 

This is an excellent an scholarly analysis!

 

Another incisive critical and scholarly analysis.

 

Ironically it was a slow clubbing plodder like Maidana that gave Void problems. Styles makes fight Margarito is going to make May may uncomfortable in the ring ring.

The rest of the hot air post ,i didn't read. Why? Because it sounds good in theory. But the man had no heart. His heart wasn't into the idea of facing a bigger, tougher more stamina Maidana.

Credit Mosley, Cotto and Williams for having the corazon to fight the beast from Tijuana. Shame on Floyd. For ducking and waiting around for fighters to slip before fighting them.

 

Ironically pbf was 37 past his best and not prime when be beat maidana 2x. That's all that needs to be mentioned here and ironically you dont mention that, why? Could it be that you have an agenda? Pbf wasn't prime in that fight it has no bearing on what would occur when pbf was prime.

Of course you didn't read it because you cant refute it and it was 100% pure ether. All that hate wishful thinking and non analysis wont work for me. Come hard or don't come at all.

 

MAR GA RITO Is not an easy fight. You need to get that in your head. If you think he is easy work good for you because your BF doesn't seem to think so. His heart isn't into the idea of fighting Margarito. But people like you can have fantasy.

I have no doubt Void can beat Margarito. He isn't going to look impressive as you dreaming it to be son.I believe he will do a lot of running in the fight. Of course that's his style. But that's goin to get him booed off the ring.

You dreaming about sending Margarito to Hospital. You must be dreaming. Pacquiao landed a freak shot on Margarito and 12 rounds of constant pounding to get that eye closed up. Pac was banged up after the fight.

Mosley landed flush shots all day long and still didn't send Margarito to hospital. You need to be realistic.Margarito had a lot of stuff on his mind (controversy) which may have effected his mindset in that fight.

 

Hey son I don’t have BFs because I am not that way inclined nor is Floyd as shown by the quality of our women. To each their own. You say Floyd does not have the heart to face Margarito which is frankly stupid when he has fought and beaten much better fighters than Margarito which are not speculation but hard facts. At least you finally concede you have no doubt Floyd can beat Margarito. Great case closed then.

I don’t know what freak shot you are saying Pacquiao hit Margarito with because he hit Margarito with lots of shots damaged his eyes and ****ed him up so badly his wife and kids could not recognize him.
As for going to hospital you seem to forget that Margarito was so badly beaten up and knocked out by Mosley, ****ed up by Cotto and Pacquiao he could not attend the post fight press conferences and went to hospital for medical attention.

The only thing the cheat had on his mind was that his cheating had been unravelled and he was going to get his ass kicked as a result. Guess his heart went when he realised he could not use his unfair advantage with loaded gloves. I enjoy watching Mosley **** him up and Pacquiao as well as Cotto’s revenge. In fact I am going to replay all 3 fights now!

 

To tell you the truth I don't really have the passion to discuss this issue point by point as I've done it countless number of times vs PimpC in the past. I've always replied to him that being better skilled doesn't always mean that fighter is going to beat a fighter who's style not suit well to his fighting style.
……...and you know what, Carlos Baldomir has overall better boxing skill than Margarito, but he's not the better fighter.
A fighter of Margaritos strenghths could beat more high level championship caliber fighters than Baldomir could.
Having better boxing skill doesn't make one a better fighter than a less skilled fighter how has more tangible strenghths.
For example, I could never see Baldomir beating the Miguel Cotto that Margarito fought, nor could I see him giving Paul Williams any type of a problem, something Margarito was able to do.
The thing about Baldomir is that he's a good fighter that does a lot of things well but does nothing great.
Think about it, what does Baldomir do better than Mayweather?

When you checkmark the advantages between Mayweather and Baldomir ……...

Height- Mayweather
Reach- Mayweather
speed-Mayweather
quickness-Mayweather
strenghth-Baldomir
Power-Mayweather
stamina-Mayweather
workrate-even
defense-Mayweather.

Checkmark the advantages between Mayeather and Margarito

Height- Margarito
Reach-Margarito
speed-Mayweather
quickness-Mayweather
Strenghth-Margarito
Power-Margarito
stamina-Margarito
Workrate-Margarito
Defense-Mayweather

See what I mean about how each fighter with their advantages would stand up vs Margarito???
Margarito has strengths in his checkmark list that he could work with to beat Mayweather.
The only plus on Baldmomir's list is that he was strong and durable like Margarito and could take some punishment, but he did'nt have anything else to work with against Mayweather.

Margarito had height and reach that he could use to walk forward in getting off the first punch on the way in, and he had a volume workrate that was unbelievable for a fighter his size. A volume workrate where he'd shoot off shots from any distance, long, medium, or short range.
Straights, hooks, uppercuts, you name it.
…...and Margarito was awkward, a trait that highly skills fundamentally sound greats like Mayweather don't like facing.
Ask fighter, when they're facing awkward fighters it makes them feel awkward. They're not easily gauged because they do unexpected things in the ring like throwing all kinds of different punches, straights, hooks and loopers...…..

When you analyze the fighters who have given Mayweather some issues you see that all of them are pressure fighters, they are workrate fighters that come forward and apply a lot of pressure.

Jesus Chavez
JL Castillo
Ricky Hatton
Miguel Cotto
Marcos Maidana

Each one of these fighter took rounds off of Mayeather and didn't let Mayweather get into a rhythm where he was just dominating even the rounds he won.
Of those fighters Maidana is probably the closest in resemblance to Margarito. Both are tall and long and both can fight from any distance throwing awkward looping punches.
…….only Margarito is bigger, stronger, more of a volume puncher, and what makes Margarito a tougher fight than Maidana for Mayweather imo is that Margarito doesn't mind taking punches. You mentioned Hatton earlier, Hatton is a more complete fighter than Margarito but he doesn't posses the mandible nor does he have the workrate and stamina that Margarito has. Again, more skill doesn't mean better fighter, I'd mortgage my house that peak Margarito would beat peak Hatton at 147 lbs.

I'm really not planning to argue much past what I've already said.
Lesser skilled fighter have beaten a lot more skilled fighters throughout history through other tangibles like tenacity, toughness, and workrate. These type of fighters have to have the ability to absorb a lot of clean punches which Margarito showed countless number of times he could do.

……...and again, and I've said this countless number of times to PimpC throuighout the years, I'm not making the argument that Margarito beats Floyd Mayweather, I'm making the argument that Mayweather because of all the factors I've stated, didn't want to take the chance himself knowing about these factors, and give Margarito a try.
Mayweather imo was afraid to risk his undefeated record against a lesser skilled fighter like Margarito knowing there were many factors that could make that fight difficult for him.

I'd venture to guess that had the first Castillo fight gone against Mayweather, he likely would not have been so bothered to take that risk.

I mean really think about it. Someone who's so enamored with his own skillset to lose to somebody of the primitive skills of Margarito???
I don't think Mayweather would have ever lived that down in his own mind and soul and so he said, pass!!!

 

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Excellent post! You saved me the trouble.

 

I think most of us realize Margo's attributes in strength, stamina, and his workrate but that where it ends. P4P I'm not sure Margo punched any harder than Maidana or JLC, and certainly not on the level of Canelo or Corrales. So it's hard for me to imagine Floyd would be any more fearful of Margo's power than the aforementioned.

He also gives up his advantage in height because he doesn't fight that way nor jab his way in. If he tried, it would eventually be taken away any way because of Floyd countering over his slow jab.

Margo's workrate... honestly that's a tough one because he might be able to keep it up but then he still needs room to punch. Margo isn't a great inside fighter and Mosley took full advantage of this in their fight.

In the end, it's probably a more interesting fight then I normally like to admit though...

 

Just suck his dick while youre at it you ******.

Floyd would be the fav to beat Margo that much is clear other than that is pure guessing . Clowns be writting long ass posts as if they know for certain what would happen when in reality it means as much as someone just writting Margo by KO.
The fight didnt happen so theres no way to know.

Imagine if Douglas never fought Tyson would anyone pick Buster over Mike on a mythical match up or Barkley over Hearns not once but twice? Hell No.

So stop acting like you know all the answers when you dont know jack.

Floyd is the better fighter and ranks way way higher than Margo as to would win who knows and who cares, at the end of the day the fight didnt happen thats what it counts.

 

Thanks Pimp C. It’s amazing and unbelievable how guys are trying and pushing this narrative that like you I feel compelled to educate and school them. If they want to use hypotheticals to defeat Floyd they need to find historical figures like the Sugar Rays etc to defeat Floyd or make credible arguments instead of the disgrace to humanity Margarito is.