I thought Mayweather Sr was winning in the first 4 rounds. But then Leonard's combinations, power and wokrate took over and he dominated. It's been about 10 years or more since I've seen it I remember seeing Leonard in an after dinner evening and he was asked about Floyd and joked 'I already beat his Dad'. He also talked about being 20+ years sober. He shadow boxed at immense speed for us too. Class act
His form before that was WBC Mayorga - domination WBC WBA IBF WBO Hopkins - close early fight before losing to a bodyshot KO WBO Sturm - gift decision WBC WBA Mosley - robbery decision So Delahoya had a strong claim to being number 1 at 154 when they fought off the Vargas, Castillejo, Mosley, Mayorga fights and Winky moving to 160 DLH was 34, Floyd was 30, giving up about 15-20lbs on the night. Floyd could of easily made 140 for that fight, while Oscar gained back 10lbs plus
Thats what I thought limited knowledge. Pac? Hearns- you mean the Pac that was almost FORTY(36) who had been knocked out in brutal fashion by one punch prior (Marquez) is the same as facing a boxer who had never suffered defeat (Hearns) in the prime of his career ? Canelo should never be mentioned in the same sentence as Duran EVER. Oscar ? This is the Oscar that managed one more win before getting brutally stopped by Pac that you are talking about ? You mean that's the same as fighting an undefeated world champion in their prime who went on to win a world title AFTER the loss to Leonard ? Not sure how you would EVER compare a Hagler to a Corrales. You know Hagler who hadn't lost in what a DECADE and is regarded as one of the greatest champions in the history of that division ? Corrales really that's all you could come up with ?
1. Pac was in the midst of logging some of the best wins of his career, was two years younger than Floyd, and ranked higher pfp than the inexperienced Hearns when he fought Leonard and is higher all time. Floyd also washed Marquez if you want it go there. 2. Kirkland Laing 3. See the above post form the other poster. 4. Corrales was top 5 pfp, an undefeated champion, and physically a welter but making 130. You sound like you weren’t watching boxing in 99.
The legendary Mayorga who Tito brutally beat down prior ??? This is the Mayorga who went 5-6 afterwards correct getting stopped all 6 times ? A close fight in a fight that Hopkins was up on 2 of the 3 scorecards ? So what your saying is Oscar got beat up by a nobody(Strum) given a gift decision got robbed by Mosley got knocked out by Hopkins beat up on a punching bag( Mayorga) and was at the top of his game lol????
Pac was coming off some of his best wins lol ???? NAME Pacs 5 best wins. Inexperienced at 32-0 but Corrales is 33-0 AND pound for pound and somehow more experienced ??? With one fight ??? And Hearns was a SMALL welterweight right at 6'1 lol. The same Pac who had been a pro for OVER twenty years or does that not count ? Canelo the same boxer who every time has stepped up has literally gotten OWNED- by a boxer who moved up MULTIPLE weight classes and then beat the hell out of him? (Bud) The same boxer who had to literally be saved with a DRAW against an aging champion (GGG) who couldn't miss with the jab ???
You do understand that Leonard is faster then Mayweather at welterweight right and is faster then Norris in his prime as well.
It looks better on paper than in reality. None of that changes what I said. One fight in 3 years. A year of inactivity. He then retired the following year, after looking awful against Forbes and Manny. It wasn’t the version who’d fought Shane. It was an inactive, faded, end of career version of Oscar. Floyd never fought a prime great in his career.
his stance shouldnt have troubled him since Larry didnt throw anything his way. Maybe you missed Dundee's comment that I stuck in there "You know you got a stiff in front of you"I naturally, I'm going to go by what actually happens in a fight and judge based on performances, not by what someone else tries to tell me. The real truth is that your man, while GOOD, wasnt nearly the fighter you say he is. Otherwise, he would have flattened Bonds in 3, Howard in 4 or even less and you expect me to believe your story that he's going to take out Norris in 4? wishful thinking on your part
let's play THIS game. List why you think Ray leonard beats Norris after the 120- 103 ass whipping he took seeing is believing but not for you. You MAKE UP your victories when they dont happen