Swann's breakdown of Pavlik/Williams using the 10 point must system

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  1. Swann

    Swann I'm secretly Marc. Shh... Full Member

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    Power: Pavlik 10-6
    Speed: Williams 10-7
    Defense: Williams 10-9
    Workrate: Williams 10-7
    Ring Generalship: Draw 10-10
    Experience: Draw 10-10
    Size: Pavlik 10-9
    Strength: Pavlik 10-8
    Chin: Pavlik 10-9
    Corner: Williams 10-9

    92-92

    dead even fight!!
     
  2. Chicagosown23

    Chicagosown23 Sportsologist Full Member

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    i can agree with that....but PW has a workrate and a style that will eat KP alive....the only way I see KP winning is by KO and with that being said PW is no Jermain Taylor
     
  3. dbouziane

    dbouziane ............. Full Member

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    he aint no bhop either.

    both pwilly and pav are gonna find eachother. so the question is who can handle who's offense since this won't be a defensive struggle. i think pav can handle anything williams throws since pav has seen harder shots than anything williams will throw. williams on the other hand hasnt been in the ring w/ anyone who throws as hard as pav. williams may be up when pav finds him but he will find him.
     
  4. kracka81

    kracka81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    pretty good except work rate goes to kp he wins by 7th rd ko
     
  5. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Hagler vs. Hearns:

    Power: Hearns 10-8
    Speed: Hearns 10-7
    Defense: Hagler 10-8
    Workrate: Even 10-10
    Ring Generalship: Even 10-10
    Experience: Hearns 10-8
    Size: Hearns 10-8
    Strength: Hagler 10-8
    Chin: Hagler 10-6
    Corner: Hearns 10-7

    Hearns 92-88 Hagler

    Hearns wins!
     
  6. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm lovin' this fight. Every time I think one guy has the edge, a scenario for the other winning seems just as plausible.
     
  7. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    One more round, and he would have. Absolutely no doubt Hearns wins in the 4th. :hey
     
  8. Swann

    Swann I'm secretly Marc. Shh... Full Member

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    you're a fool.

    power should be 10-9 hearns. hagler had underrated power. he was knocking out all the top middleweight contenders.

    experience should be even or at worst, 10-9 hearns. hagler was an experienced middleweight champion. size should also be 10-9 hearns. hagler was a middleweight his whole career while hearns was moving up in weight. chin should be 10-4 or 10-5. you have one of the greatest chin's in boxing history against hearns. corner should be closer as well.

    in summary, you're a joke.
     
  9. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I'm not buying the work rate disparity. Pavlik threw 97 punches while Miranda threw 94 back at him in the first round of their fight. Williams has NEVER been that deep in the trenches. He will not throw 100 punches a round against Pavlik. If he tries, this will be a very short fight.
     
  10. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Power: Hagler knocked people out by wearing them down, breaking their heart and then finishing them when they had nothing left. That's certainly the sign of a great knockout artist, but he didn't have the raw, one-punch KO power of Hearns, who could just hit someone with one right hand and get rid of them right away. I think 10-8 (which isn't that wide after all) is fair.

    Experience: In terms of big fights, Hearns had a much better record. Leonard, Duran, Cuevas and Benitez clearly supersede Minter and Antuofermo.

    Size: Since there was also an entry for "strength", I interpreted size not to mean bulk but to mean height and reach. On that count, Hearns obviously wins. I gave Hagler an equivalent edge in strength, so I'm hardly being biased.

    I'll concede that you could give Hagler a more lopsided edge in chin (though Hearns still managed to rock him). But the point remains that these statistical breakdowns are all but meaningless.
     
  11. Ischbaad

    Ischbaad Active Member Full Member

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    The only joke around here is you, you ****ing cretin.
     
  12. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    :lol:
     
  13. Ischbaad

    Ischbaad Active Member Full Member

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    Take a look at her pathetic posts and you'll agree with me.
     
  14. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    :rofl I was trying to be nice but you brought it up!

























    I agree though!
     
  15. Siren1927

    Siren1927 Active Member Full Member

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    Pavlik a 10 on defence?