Talking middle weight punchers

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Mendoza, Oct 26, 2015.


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  1. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    At present I'd go with triple G's percentage, but who knows how long that will last?
     
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  2. mcvey

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    Rubio was kod in one round by a single,left hook from Kofi Jantuah and stopped when prime by Kelly Pavlik.
    Ishida never was anything ,he had lost his last two fights.
     
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  3. BCS8

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    1) 2 KO losses in 68 fights = good chin
    2) If anybody else has KO'd Ishida, then feel free to post the name.
     
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  4. Mendoza

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    Good catch Dino! About time for you. Okay GGG blasted Rubio out in two rounds, someone else did it one. I stand corrected.

    I do recall you being fond of Pavlik. Why did it take him 9 rounds to stop the same man, who had already been stopped in one? You'll learn quickly I can counter punch you into the cheap seats if I choose :)
     
    Mendoza, Oct 27, 2015
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  5. BCS8

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    This may be a cheap shot, but Dino IS the cheap seats ;)
     
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  6. Mendoza

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    I think you're right, and for his defense in the cheap seats you can't see the action very well. Perhaps this is why much of what he says is off target?
     
    Mendoza, Oct 27, 2015
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  7. BundiniBlack

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    Roy Jones
     
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  8. mcvey

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    What this establishes is that Rubio when prime did not have a great chin.GGG got him when he was 34.
     
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  9. Mendoza

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    GGG did his job and really doesn't go for the knockout with anyone punch. It just happens for him. Rubio lasted but two rounds with GGG. No criticism what so ever can be made here. Rubio just went 10 with a decent puncher in Dirrell

    With 22 KO's in a row, often KO'ing his man faster than the field had, and visual evidence of how quickly his punches hurt his foes, we are talking about an elite puncher. I'm a little surprised at the results of this poll, then again old time bias and perhaps GGG's geographic origin works against him.

    Sugar Ray was a blown up welter. No way did he hit harder.
     
    Mendoza, Oct 28, 2015
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  10. Smokin Bert

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    I happened to notice that this thread spun off of a previous thread where you (Mendoza) were arguing with McGrain who was the harder puncher between Robinson and Golovkin. He chose Robinson based on Robinson's documented KOs over Hall of Fame fighters with ATG chins. You said something to the extent of "Don't even go there, or I will bury you." Well, 3 days after you started this Poll the voters have spoken. And Robinson is still in the lead over Golovkin. It is a question that quite frankly will never be answered conclusively. One question that was answered conclusively is that you were wrong in predicting McGrain would get "buried." So instead of adding a 50th redundant reply to this thread, why don't you concede defeat and move on?
     
    Smokin Bert, Oct 28, 2015
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  11. BCS8

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    Were we talking p4p or only at MW? :huh Maybe that's why lots of guys picked SRR.

    GGG is probably a big MW compared to the "old guys" because they had the same day weigh in. I stand to be corrected, however. :D
     
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  12. red cobra

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    Beautiful ko if I've ever seen one.
     
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  13. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ko's of Fullmer, Olson and Graziano = great middleweight power.
     
    red cobra, Oct 28, 2015
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  14. mcvey

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    You are entirely missing the point ,[not unusual],a poster said Rubio had a good chin ,the clip proves he did not!
    Graziano ,Lausse, Fernandez, were all blown up welters too ,were they not big punchers????
     
    mcvey, Oct 28, 2015
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  15. Warwick Hunt

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    Golovkin has incredible power. You only have to look at the effect his punches have virtually from the 1st bell. You can see opponents going into survival mode literally from the off, the big issue in there overriding everything between the 2 fighters is Golovkin's power.
    It's strange though because despite the power it tends to be a gradual breakdown,rather than one punch.
     
    Warwick Hunt, Oct 28, 2015
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