Talking points memo: Shane Mosley's darkside coming to light

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  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    You my friend have no idea what you're talking about, whatsoever!!!!! It is hillarious!!!!

    Roids don't help? Why the hell did Vargas, Toney, Mayorga, Roy Jones and Mosley take them??????

    Increase endurance, longer training, stamina, power.:think

    Mosley outboxed DLH in the first fight???? Uh NO! He out hustled DLH, very close fight with DLH winning the first half and Mosley winning the second, toe to toe action. When DLH boxedhe won, when he slugged out he was out hustled by the fresher Mosley.

    The second fight was a robbery any bilnd man can testify to that, and the fact Mosley was on roids makes it a bigger robbery.
     
  2. BeReal

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    Shane is a likeable guy, if he just comes clean, I believe the public will overlook it. If he lies, it makes people more willing to do what it takes to expose him.
     
  3. eze

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    What amazes me is some of his fans don't even believe he cheated. They say until a positive drug test shows up. Shanes 100% Clean.
     
  4. eze

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    :lol: Amazing that an athlete like Mosley isn't go be effected by steroids?

    They helped him. Physically and mentally.
     
  5. gambleer

    gambleer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think any of the fights were close. I had 8-4 for Shane in the first and 8-4 for DLH in the second.
     
  6. eze

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    Roids help you train longer, harder, faster. If Shane didn't take those roids, would he of had the stamina? Would he have been more worn later on? Would he have been tired later on more? Would Shane not moved as fast out of a punch that possibly would of put him on his butt?
     
  7. eze

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    Obviously taking steroids isn't going to make me know how to perfectly throw a jab or a jab, right uppercut combo perfectly either.

    But I will be able to train longer while practicing, thus enhancing my skills. I will be able to train harder pushing myself past my limits before hand. My muscles will feel fresher than before when I wasn't on steroids.
     
  8. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's a phenomenal post BigReg. It's a case of the cover up being worse than the crime, and I agree with you 100%. If Shane just admitted it, there'd be an initial outrage, but people would get over it quickly. The longer it drags out and the uglier it gets, the more resentment Shane's gonna get and it will stain his image all the more.

    As for the people defending Shane thinking that a negative test actually means something, I'll spell it out in very basic terms: There is substantially more cash involved for Dr's to create untraceable, esoteric designer drugs than there is for Dr's trying to not only uncover that drug, but develop testing for it. Imagine trying to detect something when you don't even know what you're looking for, and you'll see the kind of dilemma this poses for governing bodies trying to test for them. That's why recovering client lists' and receipts is still the best, and oftentimes, the only way to catch offenders.

    As for judging him adversely for the actual usage, I'm not going to let that damage him too much. Over the last 30-40+ years ('roids were first getting widespread use in the 60's) , alot of fighters have been on the juice. The microscope just happens to zoom in alot closer now than it did in the past.
     
  9. Roids make guy's stronger, give them more endurance, gives them more aggression, anyone who believes they don'y give a fighter an advantage is ignorant or just living in denial, why do you think they are outlawed??:patsch :roll:
     
  10. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Shane went to BALCO - The place which invented The Clear and The Cream.
     
  11. Ramshall1

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    Shane should just come clean and admit his use. . . probably the worst that will happen is changing the second DLH fight to a no contest. He still clearly beat him in the first match so not that big a deal really.
     
  12. samita

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    its not like most boxers are roids free. its not even proven that he used that ****, so why all the criticism
     
  13. Random1

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    And GBP wants Shane to fight Cotto again why? One would think with all the extra scandal Shane should lay low for a bit.
     
  14. eze

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    :lol::patsch


    Shane admitted to "unknowingly" taking these roids.

    The question at hand is did Shane really not know or did he know? Two witnesses have come out and said he knew.
     
  15. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Exactly. And if we didn't get that list of clients, nobody would've been any the wiser to it. Hell, if Evander had put down something a little more anonymous than "Evan Fields", nobody would've thought of linking him to it, either.