Team Parker Dismiss Haye

I think we need to remember Haye is the mando for the winner within 120 days. That would basically rule out any AJ fight first.

If Parker beats Ruiz then vacates surely he loses his IBF ranking so really to get to AJ he is going to have to take the Haye fight.....or cancel the WBO fight and keep his IBF mando.

 

This will just be Dean Lonergan hyping and talking crap, you'll not catch Joe saying that kind of thing. Haye is an uncertainty right now - but even though it's been 4 years since we've seen him in any real fight a faded version of that would still be a HELL of a live body. He'd be one of the scarier prospects for Parker to face right now, imho.

On the bright side David Haye is not into risks so he may dodge Parker unless he views him as the safest possible route to a title.

 

Good post, I agreed with it except I rate Ruiz somewhat higher. I personally think he beats (of recent or scheduled contenders) Martin/Breazeale/Briggs/Charr.

 

A question for those who are so confident about Haye and his ability to knock the block off Ruiz Jr or Parker.

If Haye was in such good shape and so confident in himself, why has he fought De Mori and Gherj as comebacks, two guys who clearly took dives against him to make him look good?

Why would a fighter looking to build and get themselves toughened up pull that trick?

Is Haye really only back because he is broke, going through a divorce and the Hollywood acting career never happened?

I think Haye is no where near the fighter he was when he fought Wlad. He has physically deteriorated and he is lacking confidence in himself as proven by his choice of opponents and approach since coming back after 4 years out

 

I don't think it's that simple. They were VERY well picked opponents, they were two guys who were not great, suited his style brilliantly and held high enough rankings themselves to put Haye RIGHT into the mix immediately with minimal risk. Why would you take harder fights than you need to if you're trying to get quickly into title contention - especially coming off a break and an injury.

The problem is now he's jumped up to this level and there are no easy fights to move up from here, the fact that he's pussying around a bit does suggest he is a bit lacking in confidence. We'll see, though - I hope he faces a decent opponent.

In the meantime Parker's path has been well laid so far, he's faced tests, past them albeit with a couple of dents, learnt and progressed and is constantly getting bigger and better and has been in the wars and proven he can survive and win, and learn from it. A lot of these guys have continued to fight "safe" opponents and so we've not seen a test yet - I think we may still be a couple of years away from seeing the best of Parker, and he's in these conversations already. Good times for Team Parker imho

 

It's all well and good saying Parker would walk through Haye, etc, etc. He may well do, if Haye has faded as badly as I fear he has but this doesn't negate the fact that Parker isn't that great in my view. Lot's of flaws, not the power his early fights hinted at and WAY to easy to catch, albeit he's young enough to improve. A prime Haye would've decapitated him and I suspect team Parker are waiting to see Haye in a live fight before risking their asset. Of course, they'd never admit that, so it's standard practice to talk down an opponent they have chosen to swerve for the time being and talk up the corpse they are going to box.

Bottom line is, it's almost impossible to judge how much Haye has left, which is intentional on his behalf either because he knows in his heart-of-hearts if he's still got it or not. Either way he's not going to show his hand before getting the big pay day this comeback is all about.

 

To be fair the only time Takam had been beaten in recent years prior to facing Parker was against a PED'd Povetkin who was no further ahead on the cards than Parker was at that point and that is the only fight Parker has lost a round in during his pro career, then 2 fights later he pummelled Dimitrenko like no one else has got close to. He looked like a live opponent against Pulev, he had absolutely nothing against Joe.

I agree with this aside from calling Ruiz Jr a corpse.

 

Parker/ Haye would be quite a battle.

Therefore I predict Haye will not want it. Sad but true.

 

Don't take anything Longeran says into account... The guy is a ****ing leech.
I wish he stayed in his lane & had nothing to do with Parker.

If Parker was managed differently, his longevity in the HW division would be much different than what it will become.
Longeran will probably call out Haye following the Ruiz Jr fight. Which will be the worst thing they could do.

Haye beats both Parker and AJ. I don't think Haye is the best fighter or any stupid **** like that, but its not hard to understand he has the power, movement, speed and experience to beat both of the young guys if he comes in prepared.

 

Haye is carefully handpicking overmatched have beens and nobodies. It is very hard to argue Haye has a chance vs. Parker since we haven't seen Haye fight at that level for about 5 years now. He may well be there, but he's not showing it as he is cherrypicking bums only. Probably for a good reason.

 

Its ironic that Haye has been saying the "Heavyweight division is WIDE open" for years now and he is not getting nor making any fights at all!

 

Parker would walk through Haye. David doesn't have the chin to absorb Parker's shots, where Parker has the heart and willingness to walk through a brick wall to win.

This is the difference, one man has the heart of a Lion while the other has a heart of a cowardly rodent who was so willingly afraid that he ducked a 40 year old grandfather.

Lucas Browne had to show Haye the way, who David also knows would surely and utterly put him away into retirement for good.