Haye isn't world class just because he is cut and a bunch of ignorant poms back him. Who has he beaten? He's just trying to milk more publicity for doing nothing.
You don't have to be world class to beat Browne that's my point. Having been formally world class and in reasonable health would be enough to take Browne out IMO.
Obviously you believe blindly in his convenient alibi's which fell on the eve of the fight. It's not difficult to feign cuts and David Haye could easily have postponed his operation towards after the fight. Many boxers would rather fight with an injury rather than mess around with their fanbase and obviously when they don't believe chronic injuries is going to infringe on their ability to win. Not even Amir khan was so cowardly as to pull out of fights when he suffered with broken metacarpal bones.. David Haye knew he had no chance and had absolutely no intention of fighting a man with fury's size and determination, so opted out. Only his hardcore legions of followers believe in the complete mess that he spouts. He promised to fight Briggs and even had him on his undercard, yet didn't deliver on his promise. And yet we have fools like yourself believing that he is some man with any integrity. As for Donald Trump I do not expect miracles, however steps will be taken to eradicate those who don't belong on this earth. As for Billy, I would assume by your statement, that you believe he was best friends with Matt towell? He could have done nothing like the times he done nothing when all other poor boxers died in the ring tragically. Fortunately and conveniently for Mr big Billy, this tragedy has managed to garner a lot of publicity from the media to celebrities alike, so it has been a worthy endeavour. If I was so inclined to receive merit and applause, it would be a cause I'd consider worth jumping on.
That makes sense. But Parker has Ruiz to fight, so it makes sense not to underestimate him. Haye the current contender doesn't really exist. He's purely hypothetical. I doubt Haye will want the Parker fight unless the payday is huge.
Yes. Yes, you did troll which is the very reason why you got booted. Also, good trolling is an art form where the poster places his provocation right on the fine line between humour and hate; close enough to the former to cancel out the latter. You have no comprehension of this balancing act and, therefore, merely come across as an ignorant and not very intelligent sociopath. http://upgfx.com/images/2016/10/30/bp.png
You're grossly underrating Browne dude. He at least showed heart, toughness, determination and power. And we haven't seen Haye in a real fight for 4 years. Who's to know he can go more than 4 rounds? Who's to know his punch resistance hasn't dramatically decreased? See what happened to Helenius. It's not the craziest thing in the world to believe Browne has a chance against Haye.
I agree, there are many questions which remained unanswered regarding Haye but nearly all of them would have to be answered in the negative for Browne to stand a chance. Until Haye steps up in terms of the quality of opposition, we just can't be certain what he has left.
David Haye is the all-time favourite of this forum, the most overrated British fighter ever. He's beloved here. He doesn't have to do anything, he'll always be reckoned to beat contenders A, B and C, even when he's been fighting bums X, Y and Z or just talking sh!t and not fighting at all. His epic wins over legends Monte Barrett, Nicolay Valuev, John Ruiz and Dereck Chisora will long be glorified and stand as proof that he's a safe beat to beat any tough young hard-punching heavyweight to come along this year or next, and for years to come.
As for Andy Ruiz, how can we say how good or how bad he is ? He hasn't been tested yet. I think he's won all his fights fairly convincingly so far but the opposition hasn't been good at all. He looks fat and unspectacular to me, but then so did Tyson Fury for much of his career. I expect Parker to win, and if that happens we'll see how keen Haye is to step up.
Great post, he's done absolutely nothing worth of note at HW, yet his mascots like that sugar clown believes he is some formidable force to be reckoned with while deserving of title shots. He's fought complete and utter trash at HW and stupid fools behave as if other fighters should present him opportunities to their reign at the top. It's a shame he was so cunning as to escape humilation against Fury at the time he was suppose to fight him, otherwise we'd have all seen in front of our very eyes him getting stripped down and exposed for the shameless impostor that he is.
Toughness, stamina and power would be enough to not wright him off against Haye IMO. Personally I don't see him standing in there and Exchange with Browne. I suppose he could circle around him for 12 and grab a decision but like you said, his speed and stamina are question marks at this point.
Perhaps and if I'm wrong I'll happily admit to being so. Personally I think 5-6 rounds is the longest Browne would be able to hang with him unless he's totally shot so whilst I wouldn't pick him over Parker I would over Browne despite the many question marks surrounding him. Helens wasn't the good to begin with and the guys who beat him would also beat Browne IMHO. Again, I might be a little harsh on Browne but that's just how I see it.
Fair enough. Who would be a fighter you'd feel would serve as a good measuring stick of where Haye is at? Jennings? Takam?