Tell me a middleweight puncher that you see capable to knock out hws with 1 punch

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  1. foreman&dempsey

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    Oh Jesús with all my respects i strongly disagree
     
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    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joe Choynski actually did it to one of the all time best heavyweights. In some people's eyes it was the all time best.
     
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    I wonder how Hagler would have fared,had Hearns caught him the way he caught Duran.Flush on the face.
     
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    The answer is if any true KO puncher middleweight caught a heavyweight right he could. Expecting a middleweight to beat down a heavy and stop him through punishment seems unlikely.

    If Ketchel had landed his right flush he may have KO'd Johnson.

    By the 70's and 80's the size and strength of competitive heavies was becoming a bridge too far and today these guys are giants big natural giants not 6' ft 200+- pounders but 6'6"+- 240+- men like NFL sized or bigger men.
     
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    what about 150lb charley burley stopping 220lb jd turner? i heard burley could really crack and he was a natural welterweight.
     
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    That was a TKO. On the stool. The OP wants a genuine 10 count sparking.
     
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    Modern heavyweight? Probably not. It's not just about power either, it's about leverage and position. A middleweight is what 180 cm, whereas a heavyweight is more like 196ish, if not more. You're punching up, not to mention the difficulty of finding a range where you are effective; reach is an issue as well.

    Theoretically sure. If someone was a mutant combination of Julian Jackson and James Toney, I could see him flattening a Haye/Cunningham heavyweight with a tremendous counter.
     
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    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    The mutant combination of Julian Jackson and James toney would have been the greatest p4p fighter ever
     
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    McClellan.
     
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    Nighttrain 'BOUT IT 'BOUT IT Full Member

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    Roberto Duran knocked out a horse, . .
     
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    After seeing Hearns stun and hurt Ali in sparring I could see someone with his power knocking a heavyweight out who didn't have a good chin.
     
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    You could not pick a more horrible example.it was a sick of parkinson old ali AND I NEVER SAW THAT HEARNS DID HURT ALI EVEN TO KNOCK HIM DOWN, ali was taking it easy and hearns was like " people watch me i am dominating ali" poor hearns a prime ali beats him with a hand in his back
     
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    Yes and sick old Ali took bombs off the likes of Shavers and Holmes. Trust me Hearns hurt Ali alright, it's on tape. He was out of order for laying it on him like that. Are you dumb? Where did I say Hearns could ever beat Ali?
     
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    Darcy stopped one man over 170lbs , 176lbsHugh Hardwicke on a tko Hardwicke was 4-3-0.
     
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    THIS, 100% accurate & fact.

    Big Hitting MW's and there were hundreds COULD, but doesn't mean they always will... SIZE is just simply a fact, a Good Big Un always/usually Beats a Good Little Un...

    Today these Giants Are NOT HW's they ARE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS, and far too big for most smaller fighters!