Tell me why you are now so sure Wilder would beat Joshua if Joshua rebuilds

agreed that's why its 55/45 wilder Aj can still stretch wilder if he's not careful wilder has speed and power but 0 boxing IQ

 

Fair point.

But I think Wilder is a lot smarter and wily than Anthoy Joshua in the ring, which is why you would not find him asking his own trainer for schoolboy instructions.

 

I don't get it either honestly, Wilder isn't even vaguely close in style to Ruiz Jr., and the flaws Ruiz exploited were all the same we knew already.

Wilder and Joshua are both flawed as all hell, and both dangerous, I think either could embarrass the other, so I aint predicting it.

 

Wilder beats Ortiz again and maybe sooner. He's older and blood pressure issues probably limit how hard he can go. The fight really doesn't need a rematch in the first place.

 

BECOSE JOSHUA IS A BIG STIFF PLANK

 

AJ doesn't have Emanuel Steward to help him evolve both mentally & stylistically. Vladimir did.

I always thought WK was more athletic & fast twitchy than Joshua too regardless of muscle & physique. Better jab & footwork..

I'm not sure how well he'll adapt to this. But I don't think I ever saw WK happy about losing like Joshua looked lol not a huge Wilder fan & styles n all that but if he'd have landed that night it wouldn't ave been pretty... Joshua apparently was KO'd in sparring not long before tho so to be fair we should factor that in..

 

Actually there is, and that man is called none other than Johann Duhaupas who not only did not taste the canvas against Deontay Wilder, but pretty much walked through nearly 1000, maximum powered flush punches from Deontay Wilder with almost no effect whatsoever, whilst barely backing up.

Of course, Joshua's durability is not even as half as good as Duhaupas.

And Luis Ortiz beat nobody of note. His best win was a journeyman in Bryant Jennings. Keep it real! Ortiz would get smashed in similar fashion by Andy Ruiz Jr.

 

He fought one fighter better than Joshua in Fury, and got his face boxed off.

Actually, he fought a Fury after two "bum fights" after a 100 lb weight loss, excessive drug use, and at maybe 50%. He STILL got his face boxed off.

 

Because 100% sure wilder will at least connect once, that will be unavoidable, sooner or later it will happen. Maybe it will only happen once, and nothing more, but joshua proved that once is enough.

 

You cant fight if you are koed in sparring. Stop all that bull****. Doctors dont let you fight if you suffered a ko recently, it doesnt matter if it is in sparring.

BS from people who know nothing about this sport.

 

**** me you must be thick.. It was tongue in cheek! I never said it DID happen or that I believed it. I was trying to be fair to his fans, who like you are a bit simple & need a get out clause .. Learn to understand a bit of sarcasm & get some comprehension skills.. I said 'apparently'.. ****ing donut! this forum sometimes.. doe

 

I think he can rebuild BECAUSE he came to the sport late so the bad habits are not as ingrained over time. But not with McCracken. He's had him six years and STILL hasn't taught him to box at range against a fighter who wants to engage. Maybe that's because he can't learn but I still think a fresh voice might help him evolve. But I agree, if he doesn't learn the layers of boxing he's gonna get stopped again and possibly by Wilder.

I would add though, Wilder is almost the polar opposite of Ruiz in terms of style and certainly couldn't fight the way Ruiz did to such great effect. But if he lands.... it's goodnight and God bless....

 

I've heard all this parrot talk of ''schooling'' and ''boxed his head'' before. It doesn't impress or shock me, only informs me that I'm conversing with someone who parrots others views and is unable to form their own independent opinion

I always say Fury's time out of the ring indulging in drugs has nothing to do with his opponent.

For all we know Ruiz could have been gorging on burgers during camp and still beat Joshua. It's really irrelevant, the onus is on the fighter to remain disciplined and whoever then happens tp be victorious in the ring, then credit should not be withheld.

In this instance, the fight was ruled a draw, and there is equal maybe even more valid argument to suggest Wilder did more than enough to retain his belts and factual evidence which suggests he was robbed of a legitimate knockout.

As for Fury being the only opponent to be better than Joshua, you must not have heard of the cuban heavyweight Ortiz, who is a far more tougher opponent than Joshua. For one he can actually box and doesn't need to be spoon fed instructions on what to do. Secondly southpaw, thirdly devastating one punch knockout power which would flatten Joshua if they had fought when they were suppose to.