Terry Norris vs. Carlos Monzon

You think Terry would win? If anything, you should be happy I picked this one to end by decision.

 

I'm guessing that he disagreed with you analysis, not so much your predicted winner.

I think this thread was created as a follow up joke to the Norris vs Tyson thread, but I'll post anyway.

Terry Norris truly was one of those fighters that fit his super/junior division perfectly. Norris was too big to be a welterweight. People say he made the catch weight against Meldrick Taylor easy enough to suggest he could fight at welterweight, but I don't really believe that. It is not often that more money is to be made at 154 than there is at 147. I also believe that Norris was too small to compete at middleweight. I don't believe him to be durable enough to have success against the elite. I think that Norris' chin gets an often unfair criticism. If all you had to do was hit hard to defeat Norris, Pettway and Castro would have done him in. Regardless of what I think is unfair criticism, I'm wouldn't bet on Norris' chin at 160.

The perfectly suited for 154 fighter gets ko'd by Monzon around 5 or 6.

 

I dont know why I but I just barely noticed this thread.

Sounds like tough competition for Terry on the surface. But analyzing it from an objective perspective, Monzon would not tower over Norris as Johnson towered over Ketchel. there are just a couple of inches in height and maybe 3pounds sperating the two .

Terry I believe can come in at just over 154 and if he can retain even a portion of his speed, has to be given a good chance for a huge upset. Greater things have happened in the sport

I look at it this way: If an overaged Griffith and Bouttier gave Monzon such a close call, I dont see why Terry can't pull it off. For those of you that say "he can't", Terry and I say "he can". And Terry would take his never say die attitude, the same one he took into the Leonard fight, and much to the dismay of the Monzon fans, give one of his peerless boxing exhibitions. After all, this isnt Tony Licata we're talking about.

in much the same way Norris gave Leonard fits, I see Terry darting in and out before Carlos can think what his next move will be, by keeping him off balance.

The reason Terry was so dominant in fights is because of the way he got off first in fights which always put the other man in a shell. It was the other man who wound up fighting Terry's fight and having to readajust their plans. With Monzon, this shouldnt be a problem. I believe Monzon is too slow for a speed demon like Terry. Another interesting point is: can Terry hurt Monzon with his lightning left hook? What would Monzon's rxn be if struck clean by pin point accurate hook flush?

The other problem for Monzon would be that Terry does not tire notably late in fights. THis is bad news as his only real chance is for Terry to slow. If he does, them Cm has a chance for a late knockout. Otherwise, TN on points.

 

You. Are. Unbelievable.

 

Nope, I made that as a response to this joke of a thread.

Upnext, Thomas Adamek vs Sonny Liston:deal

 

Do you always have to follow me around?

I dont see why Norris supossedly hase no chance when welters have moved up to 160 and won. Terry is only 3 or 4 pounds lighter and two inches shorter. But much much faster.

Remember the days of Griffith and Tiger when Emile was 150 and went home with the title. Robinson: 150. Went home with the title.

Duran - Leonard 1. Duran, a natural lightweight, goes home with the title.

all of this talk of going out early is just defeatest, an attitude that permeates the ESB forum.

He can't. He can't. he can't.

All you people ever talk about is "he can't".

Like I said, Monzon has just as good a chance to win it since it's his division but only if Terry can't handle the weight and slows enough for Monzon to draw a bead on him.

 

I like Monzon by brutal stoppage in the second round, via a jab whilst moving backwards.

 

Norris isn't anywhere near as good as the fighters you just mentioned. Simple as.

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I think Norris is an amazing boxing talent and gets underrated on here. People on here say he hasnt got a chance but if Monzon was 160lb Champ today and Norris was the 154lb champ in his prime moving up I doubt anyone would bet their house on Monzon. Boxing is unpredictable and Norris has more speed, athleticism and movement than anyone Monzon ever faced., simply put thats a problem for Monzon. I would pick Norris to win some early rounds before Monzon breaks him down for a late KO but a Norris UD isn't outside the realms of possibility either

 

Good analysis. I did pick Monzon by UD, but Terry gets dismissed way too easily.

 

That was what I found humorous. This is one matchup that could never in a million years go the distance, and you of all people pick it to.

 

Yes, it is. It is completely and totally impossible.

 

Norris by KO/TKO

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Norris by decision

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I know you guys dont believe that ****, especially you rekcutneve :rofl

 

Norris had his strengths and pluses for sure and I'm sure everyone would agree, but he's not being underrated here...rather it's a case of realism...there's no way in hell that he'd beat Carlos Monzon at middleweight. He's get punished and dissected before being dispatched in 9 or 10. A ko would be the result...and people forget that Monzon was a much bigger banger with that right hand prior to being shot in the shoulder by his terrified wife..she shot him twice and they were only able to remove one bullet, the other stayed in him and no doubt he tailored his style a bit to accomodate that remaining slug in his shoulder. That unremoved slug was mentioned by Jose Napoles before their fight in '74, and was cited by Jose as a reason that he felt confident about beating Monzon, and also explained somewhat Monzon's two distance victories in rematched over men he had previously stopped (Griffith and Bouttier). Monzon would have crushed Norris.

 

I think Norris had more speed, power and strength than anyone Monzon ever fought. If he boxed carefully he could surprise many here. However, at the end of the day his chin would give in. He'd have to pitch a no hitter and that is too much to ask against a monster like Monzon.