Thank god Wilder is being bypassed

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  1. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fair enough. Although I think that Ruiz loss is very bad I felt he had room to afford a very bad loss. Simply put Lennox Lewis and Wlad Klitschko has very bad losses but Lewis became undisputed and Wlad was the man for a very long reign..
     
  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Its not about the loss at all. It is about a career that has been manufactured from the first fight.
     
  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You can't post one fight where Agit Kabayel looks remotely exciting, not a single one ...

    But Deontay Wilder's entire career - from U.S. National Champion, Golden Gloves National Champion, US. Olympic Trials Champion, Olympic Bronze Medal Winner, World Boxing Council Heavyweight Champion for FIVE YEARS, 11 WBC titles defenses, all of them against ranked WBC opponents, including two against the current World Champion ... has been manufactured?

    Got it. (LOL)

    Only on this board.
     
  4. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I get what you’re saying and I’m agreeing with you.. I’m saying I believe the Ruiz loss was very bad for AJ but he could afford it based on the opposition he’s beaten up until that point.. Even though Wilder don’t lose to a Ruiz type opponent he needed to beat it at least be competitive with Fury to validate his career. Had he beaten better opponents throughout his career the Fury beating wouldn’t have been viewed as bad because Fury could be considered as the best HW of this era

    Even though he’s accomplished a good deal I believe Bud Crawford to be in a similar position as Wilder. If he continues to fight the type of opponents he’s faced and finally fight Errol Spence and lose then he could be considered a fraud who only beat C+ to B level fighters. But if Errol Spence loser after beating Danny he wouldn’t be viewed as lowly as Bud would if he lost.
     
  5. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    I have tried to be nice to you, but you really are obtuse. Please process this:

    I am not trying to make out that Kabayel is "exciting." It is a false metric that is used by casual fans. He is a quality heavy who deserves a shot.

    Wilder was manufactured because he fought guys like Molina, Duhaupas, Szpilka, etc. Not hard to understand.
     
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  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder is "manufactured" but this Kabayel is credible? Got it. Makes sense.

    Kabayel turned pro two years after Wilder. Where are any good fights from him? He's been a pro for nearly a decade.

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  7. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    It isn't hard to understand. Wilder is a manufactured champion. Kabayel is a credible contender. You continue to compare apples to oranges in an attempt to prop up a fighter that the entire rest of the world now realizes is a fraud.

    Good luck to you, man. I'm done.
     
  8. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Um, what belt does Wilder hold?

    Again, Kabayel has been a pro for nearly a decade. Where are all these wins that make him credible compared to his fellow contender Wilder, who you label a fraud and manufactured?

    You are done.
     
  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    No, actually, no I am not.

    I am starting to feel a bit sorry for you. Good luck to you.
     
  10. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    ok let me try,

    @CST80
     
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  11. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Thanks George
     
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  12. JohnThomas1

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    Let Wilder go out and beat a contender now. He got a gift draw in the first fight with Fury and was PUMMELED lopsidedly in the return.
     
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  13. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Using this logic, show me an exciting Gerald Washington fight
     
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  14. Holler

    Holler What a cocky saucy ****** this one is Full Member

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    I reckon I could,
    If my teaching were sharp,
    Get a decent rhyme,
    From a pike or a carp,
    At least there's a chance,
    That I'll get a win,
    But there's none talking Wilder,
    With our own Dubblechin,
     
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  15. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Its a warm up the the fight we all want to see AJ v Fury..

    Wilder was knocked out of the tourment easily and decisivly so there is no need for another rematch...

    He need to regroup and start again..