The AJ "scared" double standards

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  1. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    You say this often

    Can you break down why you think so?

    Its a 60/40 fight for me
     
  2. African Cobra

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    I have told you that immediately the fight is signed and announced I will break it down for you. I am impatient as well. I believe the announcement will happen this month or early next month.
     
  3. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think a lot of the hate is coming from the fact that people want the explosive and exciting young AJ, not this tentative one who seems afraid of engaging as much. It's basically a repeat of Wlad, and even though it can mean a lot for success, it doesn't mean much for entertainment. With Fury it is accepted that his physical limitations combined with the skill so disproportionately better than expected are why he must box cuter than most. Also Fury got credit for outboxing Wlad because no one ever outboxed Wlad, and he got credit in the first Wilder fight because he wasn't even at 50% capacity and completely bamboozled him.
     
  4. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Shovel want to know something scary? Fury hasn't even given his consummate performance. This man has not even shown his full hand.

    Going to shock the world with how he deals with AJ. Brutalized. Make Ruiz looks like a kiddys meal.

    Fury has trained daily since 2018. He now fights at his full weight, no draining or weight loss. 270 pounds solid. Good luck to anyone who fights him.

    Feel sorry for AJ, he is a good lad and a deserving champion but is going to get A LOT of stick after Fury has ran through him.

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  5. El Gallo Negro

    El Gallo Negro Active Member banned Full Member

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    Precisely put!

    I've never understood the idea that Fury ever dominated anything, or that those were even entertaining fights for that matter.
    And those fights being horrible to watch was mostly all on Fury and his style.

    Now, I will say Fury looked completely awesome in his last fight, and if he continues to fight that way he will have my respect, but that remains to be seen
     
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  6. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How entertaining is to see labels attaching attempts form A.J fan on me only because we do not agree on some things here.
    Predictable outcome in such discussions.

    You are.

    I think you overrate A.J and a lot.

    Fury at least had fight aboard vs Wlad and younger Wlad than A.J had in the ring.
    Also fights in U.S vs Wilder.
    You might call as you wish Wallin but he is not that bad at all.


    Regards to your comments, I had wondered about so brave fans predictions in internet before Ruiz vs A.J I fight.
    Lol, how confident A.J fans were, full YT and forums with xxxxxxxxxxxxxx comments and there.............. outcome was different.
     
  7. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury is not old and he is talented and very large.
    If he will be motivated and in good shape, we might see some very watchable fights with him on cards.
     
  8. CJH

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    There is a growing bias against AJ - for example his last performance if ANYONE else in the division dealt with Pulev in that way, everyone would be singing their praises.

    BUT the reason Fury doesnt get criticised for boxing on the back foot is because most boxing fans see/saw Fury as an extremely skilled defensive fighter, with limited offense or atleast no destructive offense.

    Whereas AJ has been built as a KO artist and because of how big and embarassing the Ruiz upset was, to redeem himself he needed a KO like Lewis v Rahman 2.

    Obviously most proper boxing fans can appreciate that he did what he needed to do in order to get the Win and actually boxed well - but it wasnt the usual AJ and it still made him appear vunrable.

    Truthfully AJ has always been vulnerable and this weird over criticism actually shows that most boxing fans sub consciously hold him to a higher standard than any other HW.

    Fury fighting on the backfoot in both the WK and Wilder 1 shouldnt be compared to AJ Ruiz 2, these were very good performances that aligned with what boxing fans expected of Fury and his style. The Wilder rematch is the fight that has really given Fury the momentum, cos now he is vastly overrated but us fans never learn.
     
  9. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Look forward to it
     
  10. DoubleJab666

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    Your point would be stronger if Fury hadn't done in the 2nd Wilder fight all the things that were absent in the 1st Wilder fight and the fight with Wlad.
     
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  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Fury comes in at 270 against Joshua im betting the house on Aj by brutal knockout
     
  12. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    If he comes in at 270 pounds for AJ he gets chinned earlier. AJ is not Wilder with zero fundamentals.
     
  13. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    haha these dudes think Fury is held back by bieng 270. fear the big man.

    that's his fighting weight. he loses nothing.
     
  14. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'll help the whole delusional Big Joshie Club come to terms with their hero's true nature. There are no double standards because AJ and Fury fought defensively against different opponents and with different abilities.
    Let's break it down!

    > AJ fought Ruiz defensively.
    > Fury fought Wlad and Wilder I defensively.

    > Ruiz is a short fat HW, 6' at best, with below average power, could easily make cruiser if not LHW or less if in shape.
    > Wlad and Wilder are 6'5+ and ATG punchers with some of the highest KO rates in HW history.

    Are we all following, Big Joshie Club?

    We already see that the threat Fury faced was FAR greater and therefore his defensive tactic was far more reasonable because of it.

    Furthermore,

    > Joshua is a more powerful KO artist. Therefore he had the POWER ADVANTAGE over his opponent Ruiz, where as Fury had the POWER DISADVANTAGE against the ATG punchers Wlad and Wilder. So again, it's more reasonable Fury is defensive.

    > Joshua was massive compared to Ruiz. Therefore he had the SIZE/REACH ADVANTAGE over his opponent in Ruiz, where as Fury was roughly the same size as Wlad and Wilder as far as dimensions go (super HW frames) and Wlad was possibly stronger. Therefore it is more reasonable to expect AJ to be the aggressor.

    Moreover!

    > Fury DID fight toe to toe with Wlad and Wilder in the final rounds, even after being nailed by both and KD'd by Wilder. Joshie ran from Ruiz 1-12.

    > Fury was not 100% against Wilder and even against Wlad he admitted he was somewhat drained from a fat camp, so he had more reason to point fight. Joshua was at full strength/power in the Ruiz rematch. It was in fact Ruiz who was depleted from extra obesity!

    Lastly,

    > Joshie was billed as a destroyer and his selling point against Fury was the fact he DIDN'T poke and move. He also criticised Fury's tactics against Wlad, proving he and his sponsors were all hypocrites and frauds.

    And that, Big Joshie Club, is why Fury has more courage and why AJ was rightly attacked for his disgraceful outings against Ruiz, including the rematch!

    Please spread these valid points around and help destroy the entire filthy AJ organism.
     
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  15. JDub

    JDub Active Member Full Member

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    Not a huge fan of Joshua, but if Wlad is an ATG puncher, like you say and Joshua knocked him down 3 times and stopped him after being KD himself I wouldn't call that fighting scared, but hey that doesn't fall in line with your "break down".

    Personally, I think Fury beats Joshua but the hate Joshua receives is laughable from people like yourself who just cherry pick points to push your quite obvious bias.

    "Big Joshie Club". WTF. You sound like an old woman.
     
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